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SS Approved 7/11/07 Glenn Bowles: This is very difficult because there is only one other subdivision with common open space. The numbers at the bottom of the page were developed by GIS. Sandra Quinn: The reason I asked the question about the school buses is that they don't come down our road currently. Glenn Bowles: That might be a discussion point, at the preliminary plan stage. Brian Crawford: Hypothetically, we re drew the map, in the message that some of the opponents of this project, you drew the radius out to pull In more neighborhoods, would that impact the basic guidelines of the zoning and subdivisions developments so that we could turn down this project based on that calculation? Robert Davis: This map should not be used as a basis to approve.or deny this subdivision. This is only for information purposes. Michelle Kempinski: This map may provide information as to whether this development is harmonious with the existing surrounding neighborhood. Brian Crawford: The harmony goes to the question of 33 and 39 not our basic zoning ordinance. Jay Bryan: It is 9:10 P.M. and we have seven people from the public. Renee Price: How many homes need to be on a road before DOT maintains it? Robert Davis: Generally around one per four tenths of a mile. David Southern (489 -0250 (cell #);'687-3623 (home #): 1, am been collecting maps for forty years. I enjoyed the presentation and it was enlightening. I came here with an analog presentation. I overlaid three maps. I took the USGS Topo and then the Orange County GIS and then my freehand drawing. Could I leave my phone number for anyone who has questions? Connie Riley: In May you heard from many different citizens. We ask then and now to approve the concept plan that the number of lots be reduced. This is the first application for a Special Use Permit A to come before the County. So far the checklist for the SUP has not been satisfied by this proposal. Our concern is to ensure public safety and welfare and this proposal is hot safe. in previous telephone conversations with the Planning Board, they indicated they would look for two access roads to the subdivision for safety. Melinda Ruley: Thank you for your questions about lot sizes rural character. There have been a number of lot analysis have been generated and every one-is incompatible with surrounding lot sizes. The first analysis showed that 2/3 of the surrounding lands was in tracts bigger. A second analysis was done to capture the small lot in Pleasant Green Woods. That showed an average lot size of 35 acres. We would be happy with that. A simple lot analysis taking in only those lots immediately adjacent to the Brame property show 6.7 acres which is three times the size of the Brame size and five time the average lot size of the Brame tract. Also, there is the issue of property with an incredible history in a major subdivision. There Is also the issue of ground water. Orange County has tried hard to keep subdivisions away from Eno River. Please vote to accept the concept plan with no more than 20 lots. Stewart Fisher: I would be interested to see the letter from the County Attorney. My understanding from Ms. Jacobs is that if you recommend the concept plan goes forward with 20 lots it does not kill the deal with the Eno River Association. If you decide on 20 lots, the Brames will have to make the decision to follow through with the deal with the Eno River Association. I understand at the Concept Plan stage, you don't deal with the number of lots — what sense does it make to wait until the Special Use Permit stage. 4