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41 <br /> DRAFT <br /> 1922 feel that there is no avenue for them to make changes because they do not actually have the <br /> 1923 ability to make changes. <br /> 1924 <br /> 1925 Cy Stober: It depends on who you ask. They retain the NIMs for subdivisions in the ordinance based upon <br /> 1926 the feedback from the ordinance review committee, and so I initially was considering eliminating <br /> 1927 them, but to that purpose, the ordinance review committee identified them as a valuable step in <br /> 1928 the process particularly if the concept plan can be integrated into them. There is, I have to say, <br /> 1929 there is a legal perspective that you are burdening private property owners unduly by requiring <br /> 1930 them to do all these additional steps. This applies more to sort of quasi-judicial processes and the <br /> 1931 fact that there is some potential daylight there that, legal daylight, that we are providing an unfair <br /> 1932 burden on private property in order to realize their by right use of the property by requiring that. <br /> 1933 But we have retained it. I think it is fine to keep it in there. <br /> 1934 <br /> 1935 Chris Johnston: But is there not that same concern about,what am I trying to say, equity or access or false hope? <br /> 1936 <br /> 1937 Cy Stober: I mean, I really think the value of the NIM and as Randall Arendt presented it as,for an informal <br /> 1938 discussion and conversation about, like, oh,well,you know, that is not a legacy oak tree over <br /> 1939 there, but that is the tree everyone used to have a picnic under. Can it, it is not even identified in <br /> 1940 your protected are, but it would be important to us if you could keep that if you do not mind,that <br /> 1941 type of thing. <br /> 1942 <br /> 1943 Charity Kirk: And I think it is a human/human interaction, and it is a fairly low bar to ask for. <br /> 1944 <br /> 1945 Chris Johnston: I want to be clear, I love NIMs. I am like that is, I am pro for that, but I want to make sure that as <br /> 1946 we are going through and clearing out the chaff to keep the wheat that we are keeping the things <br /> 1947 that are valuable and are, are, are achieving the purpose that we have set out here which is to <br /> 1948 make sure that there is a clear, upfront process for everyone involved. <br /> 1949 <br /> 1950 Cy Stober: There is a NIM that I would like to revise or completely delete if possible,would be for the special <br /> 1951 use permit. That is the one that gives me the most heartburn. This one seems to have a value <br /> 1952 and is the opportunity, and as your colleagues have spoken to for the public to be aware of the <br /> 1953 change coming to their neighboring property. <br /> 1954 <br /> 1955 Chris Johnston: So, it is more of an awareness NIM than it is a change NIM. <br /> 1956 <br /> 1957 Charity Kirk: But I mean,you have humans interacting with each other and that is just much more valuable for <br /> 1958 getting developers to do stuff and learn about stuff. <br /> 1959 <br /> 1960 Chris Johnston: So that is very true,and I think that is some of the concern that this planning board has is that that <br /> 1961 is also true of this planning board's meeting insomuch as it is an opportunity for the human to <br /> 1962 human interaction, but the benefit of the planning board meeting versus the NIM is that this is <br /> 1963 human to human interaction with which there are people who have answers, and the NIM does <br /> 1964 not have, as I understand it, people who have answers beyond the applicant themselves, and that <br /> 1965 feels weird. You are going to say something. I want to hear it. <br /> 1966 <br /> 1967 Taylor Perschau: Well, I would add that I think that keeping the NIM in gets to the general desire for having a more <br /> 1968 informed public. I would say throughout the process any, any neighbor that has a concern,any <br /> 1969 opportunity to interact directly with the planner is often the most informative conversation that they <br /> 1970 can have. If it takes an invite to a neighborhood information meeting to get that neighbor the <br /> 1971 planner's contact information,that is great. In every NIM letter, the template that we provide does <br /> 1972 have direct staff contact. <br /> 1973 <br /> 1974 Chris Johnston: Okay. <br /> 1975 <br />