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39 DRAFT 1813 Chris Johnston: I want to be clear too,when we talk about mistakes are made, I want to be clear, are we talking 1814 about mistakes of execution of the ordinance as written or mistakes specifically in that the 1815 ordinance does not cover the values that we want it to comport? 1816 1817 Statler Gilfillen: Particularly the first one.The interpretation of the law as it is done because often can be 1818 subjective. 1819 1820 Chris Johnston: Sure. So I would say to Cy's point on that one, if there is a quality of work issue, I think that is a 1821 separate conversation than the ordinances are not specific or following the values that we are 1822 trying to put forth, and I think that is our role here as the planning board. If there is a question 1823 about an ordinance not being followed, I think that would be incumbent on either,you know, 1824 someone with a complaint to bring it through the appropriate channels at that point. That,that 1825 would be my take on that. Is that an inaccurate statement? 1826 1827 Statler Gilfillen: Well we need to find the appropriate channels. Would that not start with us listening to members 1828 of the public? 1829 1830 Chris Johnston: Well,what would we do at that point. We would then take it to the county commissioners or 1831 whatever the case may be. In some ways we are not the appropriate avenue for,for questions of 1832 whether or not an ordinance is being followed by the letter of the law. We are a recommendation 1833 board to county commissioners who then are the county manager's boss, and the county manager 1834 then takes care of whatever issue might be arising from there. Is that, is that an accurate 1835 representation of that particular avenue, if there is a, someone is not following the ordinances as 1836 written,which I believe is your,your concern. 1837 1838 Statler Gilfillen: I am concerned that we listen to the public itself. And they are the people we are first level to 1839 serve. Our advisers are excellent, but because we are all human, mistakes can be made. I think 1840 seeing this is starting to cut the board out more and more from access to the public. That is my 1841 concern. 1842 1843 Chris Johnston: And I, and I think there are legitimate questions there in regards to making sure that the public has 1844 the appropriate venue in which to say my feelings or my concerns as a member of the public are 1845 not being addressed, and I think that is a valid concern, and I think making sure that we do that in 1846 a way that is appropriate and also does not provide a false sense of hope, right? 1847 1848 Statler Gilfillen: Thank you. 1849 1850 Chris Johnston: Yeah. Absolutely. So. Do you have any additional questions? 1851 1852 Statler Gilfillen: No. 1853 1854 Chris Johnston: Okay,wonderful.Venkat. 1855 1856 Venkat Yendapalli: Yup. Yeah, my colleagues already have asked a lot of questions about the changes, but I would 1857 go one step up and ask what are the objectives that are driving these changes? 1858 1859 Cy Stober: Yeah, I would just return to the,the first slides that I showed,so Commissioner Green wanted to 1860 remove obstacles to the flexible development option, and achieve open space in the process, and 1861 then following the presentation of two by right major subdivisions to the board, I believe it was 1862 Commissioner Portie-Ascott asked where we were on this amendment of a year and a half ago, 1863 and I said I was continuing to work on it. It came up again as part of the comprehensive plan 1864 conversations. They do not want these plats presented to them if they fulfill all the requirements 1865 of the ordinance. So that is,that is the high-level objective here. They are satisfied with the 1866 subdivision standards to a degree. There is a robust conversation happening as part of the land- 1867 use plan. If you have had the opportunity to attend any of those work sessions, or again, I sent