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22 DRAFT 878 Meg Millard: Can you explain why you do not think there should be a planning board review? 879 880 Cy Stober: It is not a discretionary matter. So, if you would like to attend the neighborhood meeting,we did 881 talk at the ordinance review committee meeting about ensuring that the planning board is aware of 882 the meetings that are held in the county and when they are held, and I think that that is a very 883 reasonable policy to enact, but this is more a question of does it comply with the subdivision 884 standards that are present and our ordinance, and per the commissioner direction, they do not 885 want these in front of them, and they do not want the planning board to have a role in making a 886 recommendation on plats. So,the concept plan is currently presented to the planning board. You 887 can provide comments on the concept plan, but there is no,again, I keep using the word leverage 888 that developer can be incredibly rude if they want to and just say I do not care, I am going to do 889 this anyway because I meet all the standards in the ordinance, and that is completely legal, and it 890 would be illegal for us to try to negotiate for anything more. I do think there is value in having a 891 very constructive dialogue with these applicants about how they can make their project better, but 892 1 think the better venue for that is an informal meeting. 893 894 Chris Johnston: To confirm though, that is kind of the same vibes had for the neighborhood information meeting, 895 right, in which you are bringing it to the neighborhood. You are alerting everyone within 1,000 896 feet. We have no leverage either, right? They do not have any staff expertise. They do not have 897 anyone guiding through the process. Staff is not required to attend the neighborhood information 898 meetings. So, in someways,the public is allowed to be there. They have the neighborhood 899 information meeting, but they do not have the benefit that we have as an organization,which is 900 you all. Is that accurate? Is it a benefit to the public in the same way that the planning board is for 901 the public's benefit? Gosh, I am getting into it, and this is not the presentation. I am so sorry. 902 903 Cy Stober: I can circle back around if you would like. 904 905 Chris Johnston: Let us circle back. I am so sorry. 906 907 Beth Bronson: Because there is lots of discussions we have had about concept plans before we get the 908 preliminary or the final plat, and I think that is a discussion that we should have when we start 909 discussing these amendments, once they are done being presented. 910 911 Cy Stober: Sure. 912 913 Statler Gilfillen: I wonder if at times that one of the great efficiencies of this board is that very public meeting where 914 people are raising points. Many of them are professionals in their fields, like I am an architect, 915 and listening to people in those neighborhoods that it has affected,that information often does not, 916 1 do not believe,fully comes up to us where those meetings are separate. If that were a combined 917 meeting, I could see that there is much that we could have to learn about what the people are 918 expressing and possibly the professionals in the neighborhood. 919 920 Charity Kirk: But the point is we cannot do anything about it. 921 922 Chris Johnston: Right. 923 924 Charity Kirk: That is the discussion topic, but let us finish. 925 926 Chris Johnston: Let us finish the presentation. I am going to keep my own mouth shut. 927 928 Cy Stober: Well, I think that we actually covered two of the bullets on this slide, so thank you for that, and 1 929 just want to remind you all that if there is any public dedication at all,whether it is a road or it is 930 land, conversation easement,what have you, that does have to go to the commissioners for 931 action. It would not come to the planning board, and it would typically be on consent easements, 932 conservation easements generally are not because they have to be maintained,so there is a long-