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<br /> 385 Cy Stober: So I forwarded the audio recording and all the slides to the Board after that meeting, I think it was
<br /> 386 Tuesday of that week before Thanksgiving week. And I am going to do the same with Randall
<br /> 387 Arendt's presentation. So,you will have,there is 170 slides so be ready. We will forward that as
<br /> 388 a PDF along with the audio recording from the clerk, but what we do not have is the video
<br /> 389 recording that sometimes comes with us.
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<br /> 391 Delores Bailey: Once you guys get that to us,can we have a discussion about sewer systems,or whatever you
<br /> 392 are calling them,as a Board.
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<br /> 394 Cy Stober: What we can do is we can, I think, echo back what those speakers said. But we are talking about
<br /> 395 the regulatory program or like the engineering dynamics of it at all, then that really is an
<br /> 396 environmental health program,and they are the experts, and they are the regulatory, they are
<br /> 397 regulators for the county on that. I think I am comfortable summarizing what was said and what
<br /> 398 the conclusions were, but I think if you have the 2 hours to,4 hours really, to sit down and listen to
<br /> 399 the audio recording,you can skip ahead. Well, I would not though because the presentations
<br /> 400 were good. It is worth your time. Yeah. I know that is a huge investment of time, but it is worth
<br /> 401 the time.
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<br /> 403 Jonah Garson: There was something,a concern brought up by Mayor Bell that I heard about subsequent to our
<br /> 404 Planning Board discussions that I barely comprehended in my conversation with him, but it
<br /> 405 sounded, his arguments related to that concern with respect to certain discharge of X into Eno
<br /> 406 River. Sounded credible to me. I did not fully understand it but the gist of it was that Hillsborough
<br /> 407 in meeting its development goals that it has in the mayor's view, done a very good job at meeting
<br /> 408 so far, and running its own growth plan is going to take up a good chunk of this sort of Eno River
<br /> 409 discharge quota. I would like to know more about what that is because the 60 percent of his
<br /> 410 remarks that I understood sounded credible and grounded and real information.
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<br /> 412 Perdita Holtz: It has to do with what is called surface discharge,which is discharge into streams usually, and
<br /> 413 subsurface discharge. The community systems that we are talking about are subsurface
<br /> 414 discharge. They are regulated in a whole different way by a whole different state agency. Surface
<br /> 415 discharge is what Mayor Bell was talking about, I presume from what you have just described, and
<br /> 416 there are limits within all watersheds on how much surface discharge can go into any type of river.
<br /> 417 But he is of course concerned about the Eno River.
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<br /> 419 Jonah Garson: And it was his position that there could be development done in the county that inhibits
<br /> 420 Hillsborough from running its growth plan. That was his argument, and I want to make sure I fully
<br /> 421 understand that argument.
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<br /> 423 Perdita Holtz: So, package treatment plants are surface discharge, so if the county were to allow package
<br /> 424 treatment plants, those would inhibit Hillsborough's discharge. But we have been talking about
<br /> 425 community systems that are subsurface and have no bearing on Hillsborough's discharge
<br /> 426 amounts. So, if you just think about it as surface and subsurface. Surface is different. Package
<br /> 427 treatment plants are not what we have been talking about as a way to maybe have different
<br /> 428 development types than what we see. We have been talking about community systems,which
<br /> 429 are basically shared septic systems on a grander scale.
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<br /> 431 Cy Stober: To get to that point, the assistant town manager and the town engineer presented, at a work
<br /> 432 session on October, I think it was October 9th, and there is a video recording of that. I can
<br /> 433 provide the link to you. And it is a deep dive into that whole concern, and that whole conversation,
<br /> 434 and they specifically get at the nutrient discharge and their allocation, and how any package
<br /> 435 treatment with any surface discharge, to Perdita's point,would compromise that, and they would
<br /> 436 have come out in political opposition to any allowance for any new surface water discharges in the
<br /> 437 upper Eno River Basin, because it would restrict their development potential. But we can provide
<br /> 438 the link so that you can go through that. Again, it is a 2-hour commitment. It is a deep dive, and it
<br /> 439 is worthwhile.
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