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131 <br /> Commissioner Portie-Ascott asked if Commissioners Greene and Fowler were saying the <br /> county would deny rezoning because the Board would not allow housing to be developed in the <br /> county. <br /> Commissioner Greene said no, the Board is talking about conservation subdivisions and <br /> other ways to create housing. She said that the municipalities are creating plans to grow densely, <br /> and to provide affordable housing within those boundaries. She said a house located in rural <br /> Orange County, far from a transit line creates a less affordable living situation than an identical <br /> house in Chapel Hill on a transit line near services. She said they have to remember they are in <br /> a county with municipalities that are well equipped to absorb a lot of this growth. <br /> Commissioner Carter said they don't have enough data to say that the municipal plans will <br /> meet the housing needs in the county, and that the county should keep their options open. She <br /> said the county should look at strategic, targeted areas that are proximal to the things the Board <br /> talks about with smart growth and look at what we can do with conservation subdivisions. She <br /> said they should think about how they position those in targeted, strategic ways enabling the <br /> county to learn how they work or don't work. She said out in the county where the goals are for <br /> farmland preservation, they should think about a different type of conservation subdivision <br /> approach. She said this conversation might create changes to the comment draft land use plan. <br /> Commissioner McKee said farmland preservation and development is diametrically <br /> opposed. He said you can't have both. He said farming in Orange County is going to be small <br /> scale in the future and won't be widespread. He said he wanted to understand what is affordable. <br /> He said that he also wants to know how they will achieve it, how the county will pay for it, and <br /> what the county will not do as a result. He said he wants the Board to focus and define what they <br /> are trying to accomplish. <br /> Commissioner Greene said each year she attends the farm tour, and she sees more small- <br /> scale farms. <br /> Commissioner McKee explained how farming will be very different than what he grew up <br /> with. <br /> Commissioner Greene said that it will be difficult to get affordable housing in Orange <br /> County given the price of land. <br /> Commissioner McKee said he wants the Board to remain focused on the endpoint. <br /> Vice-Chair Hamilton said the Board will have to hash some of this out, but in the retreat <br /> today they needed to focus on the topics at hand. <br /> Kelly Guadalupe reviewed what the Board agreed that they still wanted information on: 1) <br /> Affordable housing market analysis; 2) Municipal housing units as part of a Board discussion <br /> Kelly Guadalupe reviewed the steps for engagement window three, which will last 8-10 <br /> weeks. She said that Clarion will take the feedback from engagement window 3, and incorporate <br /> into another draft of the plan. She said it will go back to the Board and that will be the time to go <br /> through the plan page by page. She said after the Board reviews it, the plan would go to the <br /> Planning Board and back to the Board of County Commissioners for formal action to adopt the <br /> plan. <br /> Kelly Guadalupe asked what parts of the draft plan should be removed or revised before <br /> it goes out for the next round of engagement. She showed two charts, pictured below: <br />
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