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43 Draft <br /> 1 Caroline Cheeves: Yes. <br /> 2 <br /> 3 Kevin Hornik: And this is the affidavit that you signed? <br /> 4 <br /> 5 Caroline Cheeves: Yes. <br /> 6 <br /> 7 Kevin Hornik: Okay. And it adequately represents your testimony today? <br /> 8 <br /> 9 Caroline Cheeves: Yes. <br /> 10 <br /> 11 Kevin Hornik: So that's all I have for Ms. Cheeves. I'll turn the floor over to the Board. <br /> 12 <br /> 13 Leon Meyers: Board members questions for Ms. Cheeves? <br /> 14 <br /> 15 Kyle Myers: Ms. Cheeves are you familiar with the trip generation letter that was submitted by the <br /> 16 applicant? <br /> 17 <br /> 18 Caroline Cheeves: Yes. <br /> 19 <br /> 20 Kyle Myers: Did you author that document? <br /> 21 <br /> 22 Caroline Cheeves: I did not author that document one of my colleagues did at DRMP. <br /> 23 <br /> 24 Kyle Myers: Could you speak to the 164 trips per day referenced in the trip generation letter versus your <br /> 25 affidavit that says the increase would be approximately 10 clients per day and five staff per <br /> 26 day. So call that. <br /> 27 <br /> 28 Caroline Cheeves: Sure. <br /> 29 <br /> 30 Kyle Myers: They got to drive in once and drive out. So maybe that's 30. <br /> 31 <br /> 32 Caroline Cheeves: Sure. So that is, if you see here that we are showing the, the trip generation is based on the <br /> 33 ITE Trip Generation manual, which is a highly regulated document that is the standard use <br /> 34 for NCDOT for pretty much any municipality across the nation. And the recommended for this <br /> 35 land use which we identified as clinic, in that document the recommended intensity to use the <br /> 36 recommended variable is employees. So, we did five employees, and the daily traffic is <br /> 37 associated with that is a trip in and a trip out. And that is based a across an average of you <br /> 38 know, facilities, not necessarily such as this one. But facilities that operate under a clinic and <br /> 39 that traffic also corresponds to the five employees you have increased, increased <br /> 40 maintenance, you might have increased clientele. And so that's not necessarily saying that <br /> 41 exactly 164 trips would occur at this particular use. That is just on average for this use <br /> 42 approximately how many trips a day five employees would generate. <br /> 43 <br /> 44 Kevin Hornik: Okay. So, just to put a point on it, the ITE manual kind of provides generalized you know, <br /> 45 model numbers that can be used and applied in any kind of sort of context for potential uses. <br /> 46 <br /> 47 Caroline Cheeves: Yes. <br /> 48 <br /> 49 Kevin Hornik: So, the numbers used in the trip generation letter are based on kind of these projected ITE <br /> 50 numbers, whereas the numbers that you've testified to and that appear in your affidavit are <br /> 43 <br />