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38 Draft <br /> 1 Beth Bronson: Okay. <br /> 2 <br /> 3 Nora Dennis: Yeah, it's hard for me to kind of explain, but I guess if you start at the edge of the building to <br /> 4 the northeast, and you proceed to the northeast corner, then you go down the eastern side, <br /> 5 across the southern side,that is all deer fencing. Then it reaches the edge of the goat pasture. <br /> 6 And so, then that is wire fencing. And then it comes to the northwestern corner of the fencing <br /> 7 and then deer fencing proceeds back to connect with the building. <br /> 8 <br /> 9 Beth Bronson: As in the entire outdoor area is fenced in. <br /> 10 <br /> 11 Nora Dennis: Yes, ma'am. <br /> 12 <br /> 13 Leon Meyers: Okay. All right. Other questions for Dr. Dennis? <br /> 14 <br /> 15 Kevin Hornik: And the only other question I suppose I would ask, and this is because I think we've had,there <br /> 16 have been a lot of questions about the commercial nature of the use you, part of the <br /> 17 therapeutic service, services that Jubilee Healing Farm provides is land-based, farm-based. <br /> 18 Is that correct? <br /> 19 <br /> 20 Nora Dennis: Yes, we have a farmer who is on our staff, who is present 20 hours a week, and who <br /> 21 participates in farm time with our clients. In both cohorts, we have farm time for 30 to 60 <br /> 22 minutes each day in which the clients participate in harvesting vegetables, caring for the land, <br /> 23 like weeding vegetables, taking care of fertilizing, things like that. They also participate in <br /> 24 animal care, so they take care of the goats and the rabbits, they brush the rabbit's hair and <br /> 25 things like that. And that's considered to be part of the therapeutic nature of the program. We <br /> 26 can't really exist without that because part of our theory and the way that we are modeling <br /> 27 mental health care is that connection with land and things that are larger than ourselves. <br /> 28 Community and land is really important to people's sense of healing, and to develop sort of a <br /> 29 holistic healing model, we really couldn't do it without the farm and the land. <br /> 30 <br /> 31 Kevin Hornik: And I would refer the Board, again, this is in the supplemental materials that I provided. It's <br /> 32 Tab 4. It's the affidavit of Dr. Mimi Kim in her affidavit, Dr. Kim discusses kind of the, the <br /> 33 therapeutic benefits of this type of farm related activity in work. So again, just to kind of <br /> 34 support that contention that this is in fact an operating farm. It just also so happens to be a <br /> 35 facility that provides mental health care. <br /> 36 <br /> 37 Nora Dennis: Can I say one more thing? <br /> 38 <br /> 39 Beth Bronson: Can you repeat that, sir? <br /> 40 <br /> 41 Kevin Hornik: Sorry? <br /> 42 <br /> 43 Beth Bronson: Can you repeat that? <br /> 44 <br /> 45 Kevin Hornik: So,you'll see in, in the affidavit of Dr. Mimi Kim, and this is in Tab 4. The,the point of providing <br /> 46 or referencing that affidavit is just to illustrate, to highlight that this is in fact an operating farm. <br /> 47 It's an operating farm that also serves the purpose of providing mental and behavioral <br /> 48 healthcare to the community. <br /> 49 <br /> 50 Beth Bronson: As opposed to a mental health care facility that provides farming as part of it? <br /> 38 <br />