Agenda 11-18-2025; 5-a - Application for Zoning Atlas Amendment – 1039-UT NC 86 N, Hillsborough, Hillsborough Township

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208 DRAFT 273 274 Charity Kirk: So it would become a conditional zoning district anyway? 275 276 Cy Stober: Well, pending approval by the county board of commissioners and the recommendation of the 277 planning board, but yes. 278 279 Charity Kirk: Okay. 280 281 Cy Stober: It would go through the same process, regardless of whether it was conventional subdivision or a 282 conservation cluster. 283 284 Charity Kirk: Okay. So I'll,while you figure that out,the traffic stuff because that was a big discussion point, 285 and it seems like it is a problem along that road. And you're not proposing any solutions; you're 286 waiting for the DOT to do something. 287 288 Beth Trahos: Well, and I'm going to ask Josh Reinke to come forward, but I would say we pro—no traffic-impact 289 analysis was required either by county regulation or by NCDOT. And we have had Josh do some 290 investigation, and I'll let him tell you about it. 291 292 Josh Reinke: Yeah, so and I guess in terms of when you say solutions,you're saying like turn lanes and things 293 like that, correct? 294 295 Charity Kirk: Yeah, I mean people brought up the stoplights down the road that, I mean, is not even on your 296 property, but yes, center turn lanes, things that could address the community issues and the 297 issues that I heard expressed on the board for the increased traffic load,and also this packet that 298 was left that's talking about the traffic study being—I don't know if you saw the traffic study. Not 299 being— 300 301 Josh Reinke: Yeah, I've seen it. 302 303 Charity Kirk: —not being estimated correctly because the homes are going to be four bedrooms not two and a 304 half bedrooms. 305 306 Josh Reinke: Correct. And I'll talk a little bit about that kind of high level and kind of dive into what you're 307 asking. So in terms of the traffic study, because I saw, I called ITE, I got this bit of information. 1 308 took this bit from here, kind of cobbled something together. DOT, I mean, it's in there. We even 309 had county staff talk to DOT recently. We did the traffic study following guidelines of the county 310 and NCDOT. That's how I'm required,as a professional engineer pre-qualified. I can't take a 311 piece here and a piece here and sort of cobble it together. A lot of the stuff was talking about the 312 average size of the house, and then ITE does this,and why didn't we use bedrooms and things 313 like that. There are guidelines we have. It's based on downloading units. They look at, 314 nationally, different sized houses, so some might be larger,some might have less bedrooms. It's 315 the way NCDOT does require it. Now, keep in mind,they didn't require a traffic study; the client 316 asked me to perform one just to see those impacts. And we provided it to NCDOT. They did 317 provide a review. They agreed with our findings. We are currently—so this is where it comes into 318 some of that stuff of what are we going to do there is typically, in terms of when a traffic study isn't 319 required, NCDOT says you still need to get a driveway permit from us. You're going to have to 320 dive into that design stuff. We're going to tell you if you need turn lanes at your site driveways, 321 things like that. So, essentially, this is indicating no,we're not; no,we're under the threshold to 322 require us to study off-site intersections and improve things that are already a problem. We're 323 looking at what is the impact of our development. So we have actually,just to kind of be proactive 324 is we had our survey team go out there and look at the site distance. It's been submitted to 325 NCDOT. They have to do a field evaluation, also,to check that and then they will let us know. 326 And by let us know, I mean whether it's restricting a driveway—and I'm not speaking on behalf of 327 DOT; I'm saying these are options. They might say we want a center turn lane. Get that traffic out