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<br /> 770
<br /> 771 Statler Gilfillen: All commercial buildings, as an architect speaking, under state law, have to have two exits. I am
<br /> 772 not sure of the specific highway requirements,that's why we'll defer to you.
<br /> 773
<br /> 774 Josh Reinke: Yeah, and once again, not a requirement, more of a, like I said proactive just like doing this traffic
<br /> 775 study is saying this might be a concern having to access, usually I see much larger developments
<br /> 776 where they say they just want one because it's less improvements that they'd have to do things
<br /> 777 like that, and they're forced to, based on development ordinances and such. This one, like I said,
<br /> 778 no requirement,just forward thinking in case something were to happen,worst case scenario, now
<br /> 779 you have that additional access, and once again both, if DOT says we have concerns, it's not
<br /> 780 they're going to say put a turn lane at one but don't worry about the other because you put it. It is
<br /> 781 there. They are going to look at those individually and say,whatever our concerns are have to be
<br /> 782 addressed, or they could restrict it and say one is equal you have access. That's all we have to
<br /> 783 allow you on our public roads is to have access, and that could even be right in right out,to be
<br /> 784 honest I've seen that before where they say that's still full access. You just need to find a way to
<br /> 785 turn them around,whether it's,you know, not in this case, I'm not saying anything, but they get
<br /> 786 creative and say now you need to design a U-turn bulb down the street or something like that.
<br /> 787 And that's where I'm saying DOT does control that. They would have to say you have access to
<br /> 788 the site, how that access is. That's what they've seen. They understand and say we want to
<br /> 789 make sure when we get into that design component that we address the concerns that we all have
<br /> 790 out there with safety. So,the second one I think is beneficial.
<br /> 791
<br /> 792 Statler Gilfillen: Now the second part of your question is,the possibility of eliminating any danger, along that state
<br /> 793 highway,which I think the report's pretty clear. That's a difficult access area. You've got an
<br /> 794 adjacent neighbor that you might be able to benefit and work together running your access
<br /> 795 through the school, because you're not with the number of units. There might be a better solution
<br /> 796 and far safer for everybody. Has that been even discussed? Because there may be trade-offs that
<br /> 797 you can help each other.
<br /> 798
<br /> 799 Josh Reinke: And are you saying like access the school to ingress and egress our vehicles where they come in
<br /> 800 the same driveway as the school?
<br /> 801
<br /> 802 Statler Gilfillen: Very possibly. Has this discussion even taken place yet?
<br /> 803
<br /> 804 Josh Reinke: That I'm not sure with the project team. And I know, at some point it was brought up like the
<br /> 805 traffic, and we actually tried to reach out to DOT and track down a traffic study that was done for
<br /> 806 the school because that's obviously a significant generator and we could not find anything that the
<br /> 807 DOT had with congestion management at the district, so I'm not sure. Once again, even looking at
<br /> 808 what do their driveways look like in terms of safety, but I'm not sure if the project team had any
<br /> 809 discussions or if there would be cross-access.
<br /> 810
<br /> 811 Beth Trahos: And I think there are environmental features as well that might inhibit that access.
<br /> 812
<br /> 813 Statler Gilfillen: Okay, but my point on the question was, had the conversation even been considered, and
<br /> 814 apparently it has not, if I'm hearing your answer.
<br /> 815
<br /> 816 Beth Trahos: I don't believe it has, but I think there were some site constraints that may have made that less
<br /> 817 than achievable. However,we did have our neighborhood meeting at the Eno River Academy and
<br /> 818 representatives of the academy attended the meeting, and so there certainly have been
<br /> 819 discussions. We understand that the school has benefited greatly from this landowner generously
<br /> 820 allowing them to use this property. Now this landowner is looking to sell it, and that's going to
<br /> 821 impact their ability to continue to use it.As it becomes a neighborhood or, even if it were to
<br /> 822 become a farm or something else, the ability of these students to continue to have access to a
<br /> 823 resource, that they have benefited from, maybe impacted. But we have certainly discussed with
<br /> 824 them the opportunity once the homes are sold, and the homeowner's association is formed to
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