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19 <br /> 712 Beth Trahos: And of course,we would meet and comply with all the requirements of the LIDO that your staff will <br /> 713 make sure of that, but I think the benefit of the private amenities is that it does provide an <br /> 714 opportunity for folks to live here, to recreate, to walk on the trails, to exercise,to gather with their <br /> 715 neighbors in these community areas, so they are spending time in their neighborhood rather than <br /> 716 utilizing busy county parks, and I would say as well that a really key consideration about <br /> 717 maintaining these amenities as private is liability for a small homeowner's association,so that is <br /> 718 what we are proposing. <br /> 719 <br /> 720 Nicole Steele: If you don't mind, I'd like to add to that last question. I formally served on the Orange County <br /> 721 Parks and Recreation Board, and in 99.9 percent of my career, I am actually sitting surveying <br /> 722 public parks and recreation agencies and developing, helping them develop strategic plans for <br /> 723 recreation and building out their departments, and what we have seen is the best way that a <br /> 724 developer can give back to a community is the fee in lieu because you have greater autonomy <br /> 725 and choice over what you can do with that money. If we provide some sort of public amenity on <br /> 726 our site, that means anyone in the community would have to drive there to use it. There are <br /> 727 liability and maintenance restrictions, and it's often unclear how that ownership or responsibility <br /> 728 transfers between homeowners, the public and the parks and recreation agency, so from the other <br /> 729 side of the table and where I usually sit,there is usually an advantage to the fee in lieu. <br /> 730 <br /> 731 Lamar Proctor: All right. Thank you. Chris. <br /> 732 <br /> 733 Next Speaker: Yeah. I guess I'm still on the traffic run, and I apologize. This is the first time that I have seen on <br /> 734 the NCDOT side where they specifically call out the intersection slight distance as a potential <br /> 735 problem. I understand that the number of homes that you have is under the minimum. I have <br /> 736 gone through the Bolton and Menk study where it says that a TIA is not required. I am struggling <br /> 737 here because I see that everyone is acknowledging that this intersection is a problem. 1 <br /> 738 understand that you have gone above and beyond. You have gotten the study,and 1 <br /> 739 acknowledge that, and I want to be clear about that. That being said, everyone seems to <br /> 740 understand that there is a problem here, and I'm trying to figure out whose job it is to own up to <br /> 741 that fact. So,what is the next step here. You said that the driveway permits are coming through. <br /> 742 1 got that,and once that happens,then at that point you have to make a decision based on <br /> 743 NCDOT standards? I just want to be clear. <br /> 744 <br /> 745 Next Speaker: It's not just the driveway permits are coming through. I'm saying that the design and all those <br /> 746 things.A lot of people, I'm an engineer, but a lot of people are like you're a planning level, so <br /> 747 you're projecting into the future what's going to happen and it's going to come up in the design. So <br /> 748 the design comes up, and that's why I'm saying even if this were a full traffic impact analysis that <br /> 749 was done, it's considered recommendations, even though the DOT is going to say this is what you <br /> 750 shall do. Nothing was required there. We've discussed and we're saying we have a safety <br /> 751 concern with that. We want to see, because they're going to then see the actual design of here is <br /> 752 where exactly the driveways will be, not a conceptual sketch or anything like that, and obviously <br /> 753 we're at the rezoning level, so as they get more into the site plan, I feel that is when that would <br /> 754 come into play,as the design folks would say here is where our driveways are going to be. <br /> 755 They're going to coordinate with DOT. They have to issue drawings and all those things saying <br /> 756 here are the exact locations,topo, all that stuff is considered, and DOT will say you either do or <br /> 757 you do not have adequate sight distance. Here is what we need you to implement to do that or <br /> 758 you do not have a driveway at that location, or it's restricted to a right in, right out. Something like <br /> 759 that. <br /> 760 <br /> 761 Chris Johnston: I think that some of my confusion is we have a conditional zoning, a site design and site drawing <br /> 762 and that sort of thing, but it seems like we're still waiting on a key component which is that NCDOT <br /> 763 traffic fill in where they tell exactly what's going to happen, so we could approve this tonight, and 1 <br /> 764 apologize. I'm looking at Cy here. We can approve this tonight, but there may be large changes <br /> 765 that need to be made based on the traffic requirements of NCDOT, and would that then cause it to <br />