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Approved 9.3.25 1372 a horizontal curvature, the alignment of the road. All that will come into the design of the driveway 1373 permit, and DOT will require them to consider that. The turn lanes, once again, this is not just, 1374 you're plunking a little bit of pavement. You have the tapers. You have the storage. That's to get 1375 those cars safely out of that through movement, so you don't have the rear-end accidents. I know 1376 that's the concern of neighbors. If you have your own individual driveway,you probably don't 1377 have a turn lane, and you're terrified when somebody's coming up behind you quick, and you're 1378 waiting to turn left,waiting for a gap in traffic. That's the good thing with when you have a cluster 1379 of homes here is there is the possibility that they say,well that's more than one vehicle. We're 1380 concerned about that. We want a turn lane. So, putting in these turn lanes will remove that traffic 1381 from the through. Get them safely in where they can transition so they're not having to hit the 1382 brakes and have somebody hit him from behind. They're going to be able to be in turn lanes and 1383 then have that peace of mind and not do a risky turn in front of somebody because they know 1384 people are backing up behind them or anything like that. So, that is why the turn lanes are 1385 important and how they would see. 1386 1387 Meg Millard: That doesn't help turning left out of the neighborhood. 1388 1389 Josh Reinke: Well, left out would be the site distance where you say I know I can safely move that. If you 1390 added laneage there, it wouldn't help that. It would make sure you didn't have as much queuing 1391 into the site,which is expected to be fairly minimal here based on those volumes as that is 1392 something we looked at. And yes, you will have to wait for a gap in traffic on the main line, but it 1393 doesn't queue up, or it's any safety concern. It's on the site. You're not going to get rear ended. 1394 You're going to have neighbors that know that they're coming up to a stop sign, and then they're 1395 going to wait to come out of there. It's mainly 54 that is safety concerns. Like I said, capacity. 1396 That's not really the issue of why the turn lanes are being put in. That is more of a safety thing 1397 with just the speeds and things like that on 54 and the volumes on 54. 1398 1399 Meg Millard: Okay. And the last thing I have a just septic concern as well, like many others in this group. It 1400 seems like a lot of houses in a small area. They're definitely compacted, and the samples that 1401 you gave had a lot of the area of the lots covered by a septic field, and that does mean less places 1402 people can do a lot of things in their yard. Have you considered reducing the number of houses 1403 and making the lots a little bigger? 1404 1405 Beth Trahos: Well, I think our thought was that the lots are smaller, but in my world, building houses all around 1406 the triangle,these are actually quite large for Raleigh or Durham for instance, but the benefit of 1407 this conservation is that there's open space that folks can use for those recreational purposes. 1408 And so,we've tried to make that common space a place where folks can also gather or walk on 1409 the trails, so that there are other opportunities beyond their individual lot,which benefit more folks. 1410 1411 Meg Millard: But it's still a lot of septic tanks. 1412 1413 Beth Trahos: Well, I think the septic tanks are the same size regardless of the size of the lot. 1414 1415 Meg Millard: Right. But if you had a 3/4-acre lot, you would have fewer lots, so there would be fewer septic 1416 systems on the property. 1417 1418 Beth Trahos: And fewer places for people to live as well. 1419 1420 Meg Millard: Right. 1421 1422 Beth Trahos: You're trying to create that balance here. People want to live in Orange County, and they're going 1423 to find a way to live here. What we're proposing to you is that this is a gentle way that actually 1424 doesn't allow for additional units. But it allows for more clustering and could create 43 homes for 1425 families to live in this area. We think that's a public benefit. 1426