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Approved 9.3.25
<br /> 1317 all the roads. 10 bird nest boxes seem a little insufficient for taking out 35 acres of forest. And
<br /> 1318 what kind of bird species were you thinking of putting up boxes for, and who's going to maintain
<br /> 1319 those because they do get worn out.
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<br /> 1321 Beth Trahos: The condition requires that the HOA maintain them along with the amenities. We did not identify
<br /> 1322 specific species in the document, but if there are some in particular that you are interested in or
<br /> 1323 knowledgeable about,we can certainly look into those. We are certainly trading off some open
<br /> 1324 space for housing, but just as much as maintaining the rural character is important, having places
<br /> 1325 for people to live is also important given the growth coming to the county, so that's the balance
<br /> 1326 we're trying to achieve.
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<br /> 1328 Meg Millard: Okay. And also, I've also driven that stretch of 54 a lot. I don't know how many other people on
<br /> 1329 this group have, but that curve is difficult to turn in and out of, especially making a left turn towards
<br /> 1330 Chapel Hill. Cars go way above the speed limit. If you're at Fiesta Grill,which has a much clearer
<br /> 1331 view of the road, you're still taking your life in everybody else's hands, not your own hands when
<br /> 1332 you're trying to turn onto 54. Even if you're coming on White Cross Road and turning right towards
<br /> 1333 Chapel Hill, cars come flying around that curve. And this is right at the peak of the curve so it's
<br /> 1334 even harder to see, it seems to me. I'm not sure how a right-turn lane would help that at all. 1
<br /> 1335 don't know if anybody else looked at the DOT stuff in here, but they did say 80 percent of the cars
<br /> 1336 would be heading towards Chapel Hill, and 20 percent would be turning right, and they also said
<br /> 1337 only like 26 cars would be leaving in the morning, and I'm like, they're 43 households. If those
<br /> 1338 houses are 3,000 square feet, it's going to be at least two people working to pay for that house.
<br /> 1339 And then all their teenage drivers as well, so it seems to me a lot more than 26 cars will be leaving
<br /> 1340 in the morning. So that concerns me a lot. To put that many houses with one exit.
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<br /> 1342 Josh Reinke: Would you like for me talk about that?
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<br /> 1344 Meg Millard: Yup, I'd love to hear how you're going to fix that because.
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<br /> 1346 Josh Reinke: I can explain because I know what it is like if you're not in the transportation world,you'll be like,
<br /> 1347 what is this? I hear that all the time. It's like,where do these numbers come from? First off,
<br /> 1348 NCDOT follows the Institute of Transportation Engineers guidelines for trip generation, so when
<br /> 1349 you say,well how is it possible that there's only X amount of vehicles? This is based on pure
<br /> 1350 studies. Studies across the US. Studies saying here it is. And they update it about every 2 years
<br /> 1351 saying here's new information. Here are trends that changed. Things changed during COVID of
<br /> 1352 patterns of vehicles and things like that, and some haven't bounced back completely. But
<br /> 1353 essentially, the trip generation itself is based on actual data staying here is what enters and exits
<br /> 1354 during those peak times. What we do is we collect data out there in the field saying here's what's
<br /> 1355 going on currently. We grow that up to the future saying what is the typical growth. We add in our
<br /> 1356 site traffic when we do analysis,which once again, not required, but we did analysis to see how
<br /> 1357 that would operate. So, it is kind of conservative. You're assuming that peak hour of what's going
<br /> 1358 on out there now is the exact same peak hour. And it's pretty common with residential that it is.
<br /> 1359 You know, peak hours are driven by employment, schools,things like that, so you are studying
<br /> 1360 when schools are in session and all, so that's where that data comes from. DOT says you will use
<br /> 1361 the Institute of Transportation Engineers unless it is of some very unusual land use. I work on
<br /> 1362 certain projects like Novo Nordisk is one that I'm working on. There is nothing like the Novo
<br /> 1363 Nordisk site, so we had to collect data at their existing things like that where it might be abnormal,
<br /> 1364 but for residential, that's the guidelines we're using there. To address some of the concerns about
<br /> 1365 the curvature in the road and such, and how would turn lanes help that. So, essentially,when
<br /> 1366 they go for a driveway permit, it gets more into like we were hearing there's preliminary stuff. It
<br /> 1367 gets into the real designs. They have site distance standards where you're saying, here is how it'll
<br /> 1368 actually operate. You are sitting there waiting to turn out, turn in,whatever, and they need to meet
<br /> 1369 NCDOT standards. It's based on speeds,things like that. They do buffer out conservatively. It's
<br /> 1370 not based on speed limit. It's based on a design speed,which is typically higher than that. So,
<br /> 1371 that is how you say,we want to make sure cars can safely turn out of there,whether it's vertical or
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