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Approved 9.3.25 1097 1098 David Barcal: Yeah. For the full property and it was pretty consistent. It was consistent throughout the whole 1099 property other than some small pieces. But the majority, I would say the vast majority of all these 1100 lots, have a 100 percent conventional soil, suitable soil from the preliminary soils, and like you 1101 said,when we get into detailed analysis when the soil scientist does his full analysis on each 1102 individual lot,we lay out,we flag each line. It's his stamp. It's also my stamp that we have to put 1103 on this, so it's our livelihoods, and if it doesn't work,we're not putting our stamp on that. 1104 1105 Delores Bailey: But you haven't done a perc test on any of these? 1106 1107 David Barcal: There's been bore-hole samples done throughout the whole site. Yes. But when the site was 1108 evaluated,there wasn't a site layout at the time. We'll we always advise our clients when we look 1109 at it. 1110 1111 Delores Bailey: I understand the process. 1112 1113 David Barcal: Yeah. 1114 1115 Delores Bailey: I understand the process. 1116 1117 David Barcal: We do a preliminary soil, so we know if you even have a viable site. 1118 1119 Delores Bailey: Well, part of that preliminary is what, like I agree with Statler's time, is the perc test. And that is so 1120 important to know what kind of absorption rate you have in the soil. Not just the soil testing. 1121 1122 David Barcal: I believe in this case because of the soil classing and what we're proposing as conventional it's 1123 just we're not going to do what's called a perc test. That's like an actual water-standing test. 1124 They're doing that more looking at the actual consistency of the soil. 1125 1126 Statler Gilfillen: My concern is that what you've done is based on the general conditions. Which is very good. But 1127 when I'm looking at this plan, I'm down to very tight,very specific conditions. That the general 1128 conditions is,when you get down to the specific may not match.That's my concern. 1129 1130 Chris Johnston: But just to confirm, right? So, the applicant is requesting this zoning request and is the one that is 1131 going to take on the risk of if this does or does not perc, right? 1132 1133 David Barcal: Yes. 1134 1135 Chris Johnston: What we're asking is does this fit the land-use model that we have and if they decide to do this, 1136 and you know,they do their 10 percent, and that's perfectly fine, or whatever the reasonable 1137 metric is,then if it does not work, it's on them, right? At that point they have to reassess and 1138 readdress. 1139 1140 Statler Gilfillen: Respectfully, I'm going to disagree with you on one philosophical principle. As a member of the 1141 board, I think we have a certain obligation to try to ethically point out if we see what might be a 1142 problem long term that could negatively impact them financially in what they're doing. Because if 1143 it negatively impacts them financially, it negatively impacts all of us to a certain degree. I've seen 1144 as an architect, many projects left deserted, unfinished because somebody didn't plan something 1145 in advance. Or think it through in full detail. That's where I'm coming from. That's all. And 1146 hopefully,what I've asked is at least good food for thought before you spend too much money. 1147 Make sure that you're safe. 1148 1149 David Barcal: Yeah. That's an excellent point. Thank you. 1150 1151 Beth Trahos: Yeah, thank you.