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Approved 9.3.25 1042 David Barcal: I don't believe you would with the soil classification as conventional, I don't think you'd have to do 1043 like an actual perc test. It'd just be more of a bore-hold test. But no,we have not put formal full 1044 reports ready for submittal for each individual lot. No. 1045 1046 Statler Gilfillen: What happens? Those four sites were adjacent to each other? 1047 1048 David Barcal: No,they were all over. They were scattered. I can't remember exactly where they were on the 1049 site, but they weren't all adjacent to each other, no. 1050 1051 Statler Gilfillen: Okay. What I'm looking at, and it's not trying to be critical here. Maybe this will be helpful. You're 1052 working with sites that are minimum size with the septic system on it. Basically,you can't plant 1053 trees on top of a septic system. Is my experience. You're in Orange County. Now,that affects 1054 the landscaping. I'm hearing throughout how you want to put trees and whatever. I'm assuming 1055 that the homeowner's organization will have rules to control where and how you can landscape 1056 and particularly with the septic systems on each site, so they don't conflict with each other. Am 1 1057 right? It may not have been thought of,well I'm raising it. This can really make a mess of any 1058 development. 1059 1060 David Barcal: The septic permit itself would be the determination, like,you cannot by rule,you can't put certain 1061 structures, objects within the septic field. So,the septic permit itself would be kind of the 1062 regulating factor you're talking about. 1063 1064 Delores Bailey: But I think he's speaking to the fact that if you've got to have a septic system, then you're not 1065 going to be able to have trees on your lot the way you're anticipating. 1066 1067 Statler Gilfillen: Thank you. 1068 1069 David Barcal: Well, I believe in the landscaping that we're talking about with the project is all done within the 1070 open space and the public right-of-way area. Not necessarily the homeowner's lot, right? 1071 1072 Statler Gilfillen: So,typical homeowners. 5 years go by, they've moved in.They've got a backyard area. They 1073 want to put a couple trees and bushes in to screen against their neighbors. But that may very well 1074 be right on top of the septic system and not allowed. 1075 1076 David Barcal: Well, so septic systems we have a natural 10-foot setback we have to be from all property lines. 1077 So, if you're talking about putting bush and shrubbery along that 10-foot setback,there's no issue. 1078 We actually,from a septic perspective,we like trees because they do help absorb. And, you 1079 know,what you do find sometimes is if you do have a mature tree, and a homeowner cuts it down 1080 with a septic system that's been in there,typically, a lot of times,you see that the septic system 1081 starts to fail because that tree was acting as a natural absorbent.We're putting in an initial system, 1082 and then you have a dedicated repair system. So, the repair system is just a reserve. It's not 1083 built, and you don't have to do any clearing or anything in that area. 1084 1085 Statler Gilfillen: So,the real question focused with 40-something units. If you finally get all your approvals, and 1086 you start to build some of them, and then you got to come in and finally do those tests. The septic 1087 system does not work on a quarter of your lots,what do you do? Financially,that's a disaster. 1088 1089 David Barcal: Yes, which is why we did the preliminary soils analysis from the licensed soil scientist that. 1090 1091 Statler Gilfillen: That's 10 percent of the lots. Four of them would represent about 10 percent of your lots. What if 1092 you find that there are other adjacent areas that don't work? 1093 1094 Beth Trahos: The four layouts were to show on how the septic system and repair field and other improvements 1095 could fit on four of the more difficult lots. That was not the soil that was analyzed. The soil 1096 analysis was done for the full property.