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Approved 9.3.25 879 Beth Trahos: We have not discussed any specific ideas, but if that's a concern,we certainly could do that. Are 880 you concerned about the houses which those are interior as well, so there's some separation both 881 from the road and the adjacent neighbors,which would ameliorate any sort of lighting but also 882 could look to address in some other fashion if there was a concern by the group. 883 884 Lamar Proctor: Well, I think we've had in the past, and maybe staff can help me out on here. There have been 885 projects where there were certain like, all the external lights will be down. Pointed down. 886 Nothing's going up. There are certain angles that they won't be out like this they'll be pointed 887 down. 888 889 Beth Trahos: Yeah. I'm familiar with those in the context of the amenities, but I don't typically see those with 890 regard to homes but that's not to say that we couldn't achieve that if it was a concern. 891 892 Chris Johnston: And in some level,that's Duke Energy putting in their poles or doing whatever the case may be. 893 Is that accurate? 894 895 Cy Stober: We do have lighting standards. They are effectively cut-off lighting. I'm pulling up the standard in 896 Article 6 right now. They generally do not apply to the actual residences themselves because we 897 are restricted by state law to not regulate the architecture of single-family residences. And that is 898 state law. But in terms of street lighting, that would need to comply with our ordinance. If you 899 could just give me a moment. 900 901 Lamar Proctor: And while you're looking, I was just thinking of the mail kiosk and the public areas. Especially 902 because I think the mail kiosk at the front,where there's going to be a proposed bus stop, I would 903 imagine residents are not going to look favorably on this big, bright beacon. 904 905 Beth Trahos: We do have some language in that condition about recessed lighting within the mail kiosk. 906 907 Lamar Proctor: And where is that in the conditions? 908 909 Beth Trahos: That's Condition 7. It says in the second sentence,the mail kiosk shall incorporate a weather 910 covering with recessed lighting for a portion of the site and shall include at least two benches and 911 one trash can. 912 913 Cy Stober: Section 6.11 of the LIDO provides lighting standards, and we require at construction with 914 construction drawings of full lighting plan at the photo metric data and foot candle data, and our 915 standards for, again, this is all outdoor lighting, are that they must be .5-foot candles. The 916 maximum light level permitted along common property lines shall be .25-foot candles that adjoin 917 any residential zone property line. So, that's exterior to this development that would include the 918 kiosk and that would include the shelter, and/or.5-foot candles at any adjoining property line with 919 a non-residential land use. And foot candle essentially, it's the light given off by a candle, 920 effectively for reference's sake. A very weak flashlight, a 1980s flashlight, not one that we have 921 today. And of course, wall-pack features. Wall packs are the lights that you see, usually on the 922 sides of industrial or like on a loading dock or for a non-residential use. Those have to be cut off 923 as well, and they must be. This is a standard. All lights shall be shielded in such as a way as to 924 direct light toward the earth's surface and away from reflective surfaces unless otherwise 925 exempted.And flood lights are generally not permitted unless they can really reassure us that 926 they're not going to bleed over into adjoining property lines. 927 928 Lamar Proctor: And so that would cover the kiosk and the like. 929 930 Cy Stober: Yeah. And there are specific subdivision standards within Section 6.11.6. That are if any 931 subdivision, I'm just quoting here, if any subdivision proposes streetlights or other common or 932 public area outdoor lighting,the final plats, so that's the subdivision plats, not the site plan that 933 you're reviewing today, shall contain the statement certifying that the applicable provisions of the