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Approved 9.3.25 714 Beth Trahos: So,that's an engineering design question. Roughly, one unit to the acre is the R1 zoning district. 715 This is 61 acres. 716 717 Charity Kirk: Yeah, but some of that land is probably not, you can't build on it anyway because of the creek and 718 the flood zone. 719 720 Beth Trahos: That's true. However,that area could be included in lots. So,the benefit of the conservation is 721 you could preserve large areas of open space as a group as compared to if you individually lot, 722 these things will be included as a part of individual lots, and oftentimes folks just consider that 723 more of their backyard, and I'm familiar with some situations where there has been sort of more 724 disturbance of those areas than there should have been because folks just thought it was their 725 backyard. This allows you to preserve, the swaths of property together. The exact number of units 726 that could be permitted,you could bring in probably five engineers, and they'd come up with 727 different numbers. It's an art to lay them out, and I don't specifically know how many. 728 729 Donna Crowder: I can tell you that in the very beginning we were contemplating it as doing acre lots and we came 730 up with 50 units, is what we came up with. Because we could cross the creek into the back, and 731 we could put five or six lots back there, and we had a total of 50. We met with the planning 732 department. They indicated that Orange County would like to see smaller lots with more open 733 space. So, that is why we went with the plan that we did and why we went with smaller lots, and 1 734 would say to best point out, if the land is on larger lots, they own privately, those people can do 735 whatever they want. They can knock down trees. They can put up fences and this and that, 736 which I know you're probably very aware about conservation subdivisions, but if it's preserved, 737 you have more land that's going to be preserved. And that whole area in the back is perfect for 738 wildlife and that is developable, and I will tell you that the land was suitable. All over the whole 739 subdivision. Everywhere that wasn't in wetlands had good dirt that we could have put probably 740 more houses. We chose to go with this conservation subdivision in order to preserve it. So,that's 741 just to let you know. We couldn't go over 50 lots because of the community well. 742 743 Charity Kirk: What are you expecting the home sizes to be? You say four bedrooms, but like what do you think 744 the footprint of each. Because I know there's lots of septic everywhere, but it didn't have an 745 estimate for the footprint. 746 747 Donna Crowder: And there are those examples though that do show the footprint. 748 749 Charity Kirk: Yeah. But it didn't have dimensions. 750 751 Beth Trahos: Yeah, it didn't have dimensions. So,just to be kind of put this record straight. We're a developer. 752 We're not a builder, so we don't go vertical. And we have not picked a builder yet. We have 753 several different builders that are interested in it. But we are just a developer. Full disclosure,we 754 are 65 percent owned by DL Horton, but we are not obligated to sell these lots to DL Horton, and 755 its quite honestly kind of out of their wheelhouse. I don't know that they would build on these 756 anyway. I would expect that it would be a minimum of 2,500 to 3,000 square feet, probably more. 757 758 Charity Kirk: For the footprint? 759 760 Donna Crowder: No,for the total house size, but we don't know what the footprint's going to be because we're just 761 the developer, and we don't know who's going to buy it and what houses they're going to put. 762 763 Charity Kirk: Okay. 764 765 Donna Crowder: David, do you have the dimensions that you used for that? David Barcal, come on. 766 767 David Barcal: The house boxes that I took from,we had about four different ones shared with us. We took the 768 largest one. We had to make the most conservative approach when we're laying these out, and