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23 Draft <br /> 1 <br /> 2 Beth Bronson: I mean the fact that he owns the road is something up for discussion. <br /> 3 <br /> 4 Leon Meyers: I believe what James told us earlier is that ownership of an adjacent property is an element of <br /> 5 special damages but is— <br /> 6 <br /> 7 Beth Bronson: There's no entrance on Holly Creek into the parking lot? <br /> 8 <br /> 9 Leon Meyers: That's right. <br /> 10 <br /> 11 Beth Bronson: Okay. <br /> 12 <br /> 13 Leon Meyers: So, I'll ask once again is there a moment to approve or deny standing for Mr. Lloyd? I'm going to <br /> 14 rule for the lack of motion, the board denied standing for you, Mr. Lloyd. Thank you for being here. <br /> 15 <br /> 16 Carl Lloyd: Then nobody will qualify for anything. This is ridiculous. If that's the case, move all of us. <br /> 17 <br /> 18 Leon Meyers: So, I would ask that everybody we had statement about civility and not being disruptive. Please <br /> 19 don't start. <br /> 20 <br /> 21 Carl Lloyd: And the last comment is not true about the parking lot. <br /> 22 <br /> 23 Leon Meyers: I understand. <br /> 24 <br /> 25 Carl Lloyd: I mean Holly Creek; he's got a gate in his fence that runs into his parking lot— <br /> 26 <br /> 27 Leon Meyers: Thank you, Mr. Lloyd. <br /> 28 <br /> 29 Carl Lloyd: From my road. <br /> 30 <br /> 31 Leon Meyers: Thank you, Mr. Lloyd. Board members, we have not established standing for any other witnesses. <br /> 32 The choices would be to hear the case at this point or to consider a continuation, which I believe <br /> 33 James has told us would be something that the board could consider without a request for Lloyd, <br /> 34 this withstanding. <br /> 35 <br /> 36 Beth Bronson: I think we're very much well within our right to discuss having a continuance, but to be very clear in <br /> 37 why we're continuing and what it is that we would need to move forward. <br /> 38 <br /> 39 Jeff Scott: I guess to your point, Beth, it's like if we do the continuance, parties over here said that they want <br /> 40 to establish standing, so they want more time. But then if we continue it, is that fair to the <br /> 41 applicant. <br /> 42 <br /> 43 Leon Meyers: Very good question. <br /> 44 <br /> 45 Nathan Robinson: I think typically would say no continuance because people have their time, and the rules were <br /> 46 followed. The exception though is that there's been two real estate brokers who otherwise, if they <br /> 47 were to have come prepared, they would've been able to establish it, from my perspective. <br /> 48 Typically, I would say no because we followed the rules. I've gone through it. The notifications <br /> 49 were sent out. In often like situations, we have these conversations, people just speak not in my <br /> 50 backyard statements without standing, without any kind of qualification, without any backup, <br /> 23 <br />