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12 Draft <br /> 1 that could have been brought for us today in regard to what standing there would be, then that <br /> 2 might make this discussion a lot easier, but it doesn't today. <br /> 3 <br /> 4 Leon Meyers: No, it doesn't. Maybe the next step is for the board to make a decision or a standing for Mr. <br /> 5 Hugelmeyer to begin with and then we can figure out where to go from there. Could you in a very <br /> 6 short statement, Mr. Hugelmeyer, again tell us what is the competent, material, and substantial <br /> 7 evidence that you bring to establish the fact that you could suffer special damages if the <br /> 8 modification were approved. <br /> 9 <br /> 10 Michael Hugelmeyer: Are you asking for that via my expertise as real estate broker or are you asking that as a <br /> 11 person who lives on the block? <br /> 12 <br /> 13 Leon Meyers: I'm asking for any competent, material, and substantial evidence that you would suffer special <br /> 14 damages as a property owner if this application were approved. <br /> 15 <br /> 16 Michael Hugelmeyer: Public toilets at the beginning of a dead-end road will have negative effects on the values of <br /> 17 the home. <br /> 18 <br /> 19 Beth Bronson: Be prepared to be able to defend that though with evidence that would show that. <br /> 20 <br /> 21 Michael Hugelmeyer: Yes, if you grant us a continuation. <br /> 22 <br /> 23 Leon Meyers: You don't have that evidence tonight? <br /> 24 <br /> 25 Leslie Weidner: We could not find documentation. <br /> 26 <br /> 27 Leon Meyers: I'm not going talk to the witness. <br /> 28 <br /> 29 Nathan Robinson: Mr. Bryan suggested that using rationale in regard to a decision is an appropriate means of doing <br /> 30 so considering the fact that we have all of the residents of Holly Creek Lane here who are opposed <br /> 31 to an expansion, not the establishment but an expansion of what we have going on at the <br /> 32 beginning of a cul-de-sac. There is plenty of evidence that we can provide if given the rationale of <br /> 33 a continuation. <br /> 34 <br /> 35 Leon Meyers: All right. Well, then the motion would be in order to approve or deny standing for Hugelmeyer as a <br /> 36 party to the hearing. <br /> 37 <br /> 38 Nathan Robinson: I think he comes without the evidence. I think you come without the evidence, you come without a <br /> 39 report that says this is my assessment and this is my assessment for public parking, and these are <br /> 40 the documents that show this was $200,000.00 less or whatever. You come without that document. <br /> 41 At the same time, I hear you say that you were not aware that you needed to come with that <br /> 42 production of rationale as Beth had said earlier. I think the question here's a chicken and the egg <br /> 43 thing, it sounds as if that you have the professional competence in order to speak to it but you're <br /> 44 not presenting something to us and so we're stuck in a quandary where someone is the broker in <br /> 45 charge and they have the professional competence in order to be able to present this, yet now we <br /> 46 come with a presentation where one side is ready to present and the other side is not. <br /> 47 <br /> 48 Michael Hugelmeyer: Understood. Yes, I agree with everything you just said but as Mr. Bryan said we're using <br /> 49 rationale on the board here, and when you have everyone at Holly Creek going here that should be <br /> 50 enough evidence for you to use your rationale to suggest that perhaps we need more time in order <br /> 12 <br />