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Approved 8.7.24
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<br />it’s licensed by the state and it’s further distinctive piece in here is that it has to be by a 1651
<br />licensed provider within that piece of property, and so what's in the application is for a 1652
<br />maximum of two single family homes, as defined by the state, that would have a 1653
<br />maximum of six residential occupants within those. That's not, with due respect to some 1654
<br />conversations at the last meeting and other things, that's not a non-residential use as 1655
<br />defined by the state. Now we can all argue about whether it ought to be or whether it 1656
<br />shouldn't be. 1657
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<br />Beth Bronson: And I can appreciate that. Thank you for clarifying that there is no commercial 1659
<br />component. 1660
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<br />Scott Radway: There is no commercial component, and as such, this application could have come 1662
<br />forward as a residential conditional district or, in some ways, as a flexible development, so 1663
<br />if I can, before Patrick comes up and swats me, if I can say one thing. There's a lot of 1664
<br />overlaps in the design that are pieces that are required by the ordinance. For example, 1665
<br />there was a comment about signs and a lot of back and forth as we were trying to figure 1666
<br />out signs. Well, in fact, to make the application we have to design a sign and submit it 1667
<br />with the application. So, the back and forth on many of these items is not conspiracy in 1668
<br />any fashion. It's trying to find out what we have to submit in order to begin the process. 1669
<br />The second piece that we've heard about things that don't match up is the zoning districts 1670
<br />for this require a perimeter buffer around the property on all sides; buffers against what's 1671
<br />across the street, buffers against the adjacent properties. This project, if brought forward 1672
<br />as a flexible development, in the subdivision process would not have to provide any of 1673
<br />those buffers around to any properties, so the claim that this is a village that's put into the 1674
<br />woods and hidden from everything is, in part, just because your ordinance requires it to do 1675
<br />that, so parts of these are elements of how to build a community, and they're the elements 1676
<br />of how to bring forward and have a good discussion about this, and I think it would be 1677
<br />helpful to have Cy be able to comment on some of these things from this meeting that 1678
<br />happened at the first meeting too. I don't get to make that choice, but it's my 2 cents. 1679
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<br />Adam Beeman: Correct me if I'm wrong, Patrick, but the community buildings is why they can't use those 1681
<br />residential districts? 1682
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<br />Patrick Mallett: Yeah, in short, they've been working on this for quite some time, and they kind of came to 1684
<br />the point of let's talk about what we need to do and what our vision is and which 1685
<br />category, which way do we go with our request, and I think that a lot of the considerations 1686
<br />with where the category they ended up with were based in, or, what is our best 1687
<br />opportunity to be consistent as best we can or a path towards consistency with our plans, 1688
<br />our goals, our objectives. Also knowing that this board reviewed a residential conditional 1689
<br />district recently, Eden View, 30 plus units, and that is a fairly simple design because 1690
<br />you're talking about just single-family homes on public or private roads. This group is 1691
<br />contemplating more than just single family in a sense that single family, duplex, triplex, 1692
<br />town homes, family care facility, like a multi-family, so the difference from a design 1693
<br />perspective, I think that there was, and I'm not trying to speak for them or weigh whether 1694
<br />that's good or bad, but the reality is once you cross that line you start to get into building 1695
<br />and design commitments. With a master plan there is some very limited flexibility to that. 1696
<br />If you go to an RCD and/or, let's just say theoretically to accommodate their other uses 1697
<br />other than the residences, you start to get into where are the dumpsters, where is the fire 1698
<br />lane, exactly where is the ADA accessibility space, where's the route? It's a higher level 1699
<br />of design, and so I think that there was an obvious choice, like we know a lot about what 1700
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