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Approved 7.10.24 1776 Dolores Bailey: That’s not a problem for many of the people I serve. I provide affordable housing and in 1777 Orange County there’s a 1,900-unit gap of people who are looking for housing. And seniors in particular, and black 1778 and brown seniors in particular. And Carol Woods has a 1,600 person wait list. And there’s not much diversity on that 1779 list. 1780 1781 Mareah Steketee: Correct. 1782 1783 Dolores Bailey: So Carol Woods has not figured out how to provide diversity. I am saying this because if 1784 you’re getting ready to build a community like this, you really must look at that. And let me just give a comment on 1785 something you said. The African-American community is no longer able to keep their families at home. They 1786 absolutely want and need places like this but often when they are created, like what this sounds like to my ears, is 1787 exclusive. It does not include everyone and so what I think I heard was that we need to change the zonings because 1788 you want to put in a facility for aging. You’re going to put in a family center but you don’t want to be seen. 1789 1790 Mareah Steketee: No, we think that others don’t want to see us, ma’am. 1791 1792 Dolores Bailey: That is so not true. The need for housing in Orange County is so desperate for everybody. 1793 1794 Mareah Steketee: It is. Yes, it is. 1795 1796 Dolores Bailey: As Chris said, if he could live in this community, he would, too. It’s a wonderful-sounding 1797 community. So, if you are not going to restrict it to 55, if this is not a retirement center which we need more of in 1798 Orange County, we do, there’s no place for people to age which is why this sounded good to me because it sounded 1799 like you were creating another Carol Woods but that’s not what you’re doing. So, I am confused. 1800 1801 Mareah Steketee: Well, the confusion probably comes because the CCRCs that you are familiar with, Carol 1802 Woods, etc. are enormously expensive. Many of our community members could not afford to live there and so we’re 1803 looking for an alternative that is between, that isn’t age restricted. In fact, there’s a person who’s interested in the 1804 community who says I have a disabled daughter who needs her own home. Can she live in this community? We say 1805 absolutely yes. We’re not restricting. We need to do a better job at reaching out, right? A lot of our interested 1806 parties right now don’t want to commit because they don’t want to do it before zoning. They’re more risk averse. We 1807 have a lot of outreach and marketing to do yet. We’re at the beginning of that. Even though we have 34 people who 1808 say I want to live there and 100 more who are interested and many more in the background, yes, we can do a better 1809 job of being inclusive. We have not said tonight that we’re affordable housing because we have tried very hard to 1810 meet that bar and with a family-care home, two family-care homes, and the expense of a common house and health 1811 facilities, it’s very difficult to keep the cost down. That has to be spread across all the people in the community and 1812 once we’re established there may be an opportunity to provide some options for people with lower income, but we 1813 don’t want to be exclusive in terms of background. 1814 1815 Dolores Bailey: When you mention the affordable side of it, normally we base that on people’s income, and if 1816 we’re talking about seniors I am convinced there’s not going to be a whole lot of really high incomes that are out 1817 there. You talk about exclusivity, you mention the family center and needing caretakers. Will the caretakers be able 1818 to live here? 1819 1820 Mareah Steketee: We’ve talked about it. 1821 1822 Scott Radway: Dolores, we’ve known each other and gone through a lot of affordable housing wars on the 1823 same side. And I wanted to make one comment about what people are talking about and some of the questions are 1824 about is anybody could live there that’s under 55 and some other things like that. Some of you may have experience 1825 with age 55 or age 62 age-restricted residential developments, and some with CCRCs, and some with assisted living 1826