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<br /> 1 parking lot with a cul-de-sac bulb at the end, and so, again, it's just like David said so well, we're
<br /> 2 trying to use existing infrastructure.
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<br /> 4 Patrick Mallett: Okay. This is my two cents and thank you for working with us. Thank you for recognizing
<br /> 5 that we have two requirements, and this is, I'll draw an analogy to a school. You have drop
<br /> 6 offs and then you have off street parking. For all intents and purposes, these are not roads.
<br /> 7 This is a parking lot and we would have to benchmark it to the closest standard we could find
<br /> 8 because this is a bit of a hybrid, and we recognize that, and we recognize the fact that with
<br /> 9 the law in terms of the parking requirement you need to be creative, and we do have
<br /> 10 provisions for you to accept that as an acceptable amount of parking but the fact of the matter
<br /> 11 is there does need to be some parking for overflow, for staff, and five children, all have gone
<br /> 12 to camp. More times than not, I'm parking and then getting out of my car to go get the child
<br /> 13 and get them all their stuff to the vehicle. So, we have to think it through in a reasonable
<br /> 14 fashion, and our only original concern was in your packet,this was shown with parallel parking
<br /> 15 and just enough room for one way, and so you end up in a dead-end scenario if you can
<br /> 16 imagine that, where you have to assume that there would be parked vehicles and then a car
<br /> 17 travels down to the cul-de-sac. They wouldn't be able to go back out, especially during the
<br /> 18 peak time when all the kids are coming in or out. So, this is much better, and in my personal
<br /> 19 professional opinion, I think they've come up with a creative scenario with regard to disbursing
<br /> 20 the parking and best utilizing the built environment. I will recognize, though, that this
<br /> 21 essentially amounts to up to interpretation something slightly more than one way but not quite
<br /> 22 two-way dimension, and if you're coming over here and parking, and then you get in your
<br /> 23 vehicle to come out or you're backing out, you're still going down a one way.
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<br /> 25 T.C. Morphis: Where are you looking?
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<br /> 27 Patrick Mallett: On Road B, so, there could be some signage or traffic control type elements that you might
<br /> 28 want to offer. And all we're looking for is just something that's reasonable but does account
<br /> 29 for the requirements and then public safety. The last thing I would add is we have people
<br /> 30 coming in and out, access. We have to think about first responders, public safety, in the
<br /> 31 unlikely event that they need to get there and get to someone, and can they get in there if
<br /> 32 there are cars parked or not. So, part of the consideration might be an agreement that there's
<br /> 33 adequate access for emergency services, and that the parking and/or the travel lane would
<br /> 34 include whatever the shoulder scenario is that the fire marshal would typically make a
<br /> 35 consideration for the shoulder for their access. So, I'm just throwing those things out there on
<br /> 36 the fly. We just saw this tonight.
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<br /> 38 Leon Meyers: My question was actually about parking,and you just raised another issue which is emergency
<br /> 39 access, and at some point, I'm going to want to hear from the staff about whether, what the
<br /> 40 applicant has presented tonight,just speaking for myself, not for the Board certainly, complies
<br /> 41 with the requirements in the UDO.
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<br /> 43 Taylor Perschau: Are you talking about parking specifically?
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<br /> 45 Leon Meyers: That was the objection in the agenda package.
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<br /> 47 Taylor Perschau: For my review saying that they weren't meeting, it can be two-fold. My review was specific to
<br /> 48 the direction, the one direction, not having an out, an egress. So, if they were going one way
<br /> 49 on Road A and then not having to turn around in the cul-de-sac and not having a two-way. If
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