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<br /> 1 T.C. Morphis: Correct. We'll get you qualified as an expert. But go ahead and explain the problem that staff has
<br /> 2 identified.
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<br /> 4 David Swanson: Okay, sure. So, I think we've all got a pretty good idea that this is an existing asphalt-paved road
<br /> 5 that the, essentially the TLC and the Schoolhouse of Wonder have inherited. The roads are in
<br /> 6 pretty good shape. Being that they were designed as a cul-de-sac for a neighborhood, they have
<br /> 7 met the standards at the time for Orange County in terms of swales and drainage and so on. They
<br /> 8 are asphalt paved, and as Matt described, it is gated, so there's limited public access, and it's just
<br /> 9 used during the time that the Schoolhouse of Wonder activities happen. So Taylor and staff has
<br /> 10 indicated that the primary road, and for the purpose of testimony, if you will, we'll call it Road A,
<br /> 11 these are not named roads, but we'll call it Road A, that is the one that is at the bottom of your
<br /> 12 sheet here, and then the one that, the appendage that goes up, or to the north, we'll call it Road B.
<br /> 13 Exciting. And so, on Road A, we're understanding that we need to maintain, and let me just clarify,
<br /> 14 it's, those are 18 feet wide currently. We need to maintain access, two-way access, if I'm correct in
<br /> 15 saying that, and that was identified as we went through this process. The plan that you probably
<br /> 16 are looking at on your screen, this is the revised plan. So, the plan that you looked at in your
<br /> 17 packet rather had shown parallel parking along there, and then staff identified that with that, you
<br /> 18 couldn't get two-way access on that main Road A. So creatively, what we've done, we just looked
<br /> 19 at that, and we had shown 24 spaces. I will say,just from practical experience, when you get into
<br /> 20 a situation like this, currently there's no ADA parking. We kind of know that you're going to need to
<br /> 21 have identified some kind of accessible parking, so one space, we're going to identify with
<br /> 22 accessible space, and when you get over 25 spaces, then you have to have two spaces. So, we
<br /> 23 purposely kept it under 24 so we didn't need to get into an additional ADA space. However, the
<br /> 24 program needs are even less than that. What we've done through Taylor's help and kind of
<br /> 25 creatively looking at the criteria that the county has in their standards, or regulations you might say,
<br /> 26 and they have, and you'll have to help me out here, Taylor, but they have an identification for
<br /> 27 camp. And I'm going by memory now, but I believe that it's one space for the first 5 acres and then
<br /> 28 one space for every acre thereafter.
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<br /> 30 Taylor Perschau: So is, I actually have it right here for you. I left my notes. I didn't mean to.
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<br /> 32 David Swanson: Okay.
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<br /> 34 Taylor Perschau: But it's actually, so five spaces for the first 2 acres and then one space for every acre after. So, for
<br /> 35 a 95-acre parcel, we would have 98 parking spaces for this camp.
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<br /> 37 David Swanson: Which let me just point out to you, I think anyone in a reasonable mind would just find that a little
<br /> 38 bit absurd for what our camp needs are. And let me also point out this. I don't think we've stated
<br /> 39 this. When we say camp—
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<br /> 41 T.C. Morphis: David, before you hop in Marty, could you let the Board know what sort of your typically number of
<br /> 42 campers is you have, like, say, during the summer or other times when you have kind of the full
<br /> 43 camp?
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<br /> 45 Marty Jorgensen: Yeah, our most populous week of the summer would have fewer than 63 campers. Many of them
<br /> 46 are siblings, and so the idea of 90 parking spaces would be more than all of our staff and every
<br /> 47 camper bringing their own car.
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<br /> 49 T.C. Morphis: Yeah. Thank you. Sorry, David. I didn't mean to interrupt you.
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