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~~ <br />Place was the right model, he said, but he pointed out that putting some buildings around <br />green space does not create a McCorkle Place,. Mayor Foy acloaowledged that the Council <br />did not know the solution. But they did know that it should not be "like a Disneyland of <br />the University," with 17,000 parking spaces there, he said. <br />Mr, Firstenberg stated that UNC would also like to reduce the parking since having more <br />parking does nothing to enhance the plan. "But we have to be shepherds of a plan that's <br />viable," he said. Mr. Firstenberg noted that LiNC was trying to develop only about 25% <br />of the overall land. The main campus model was a great one, but the mix of uses at <br />Carolina North had nothing to do with the main campus per se, he said. Carolina North <br />will not include undergraduate teaching, and will not have dorms but a different kind of <br />residential component, Mr. Firstenberg pointed out. <br />Mayor Foy suggested that an easy first step would be to take 10,000 parking spaces and <br />put them in a satellite lot somewhere off I-40. And make a commitment that the <br />University will not advocate for the widening of Airport Road, Weaver Dairy Road and <br />Estes Drive, he said. Mayor Foy stated that there were serious commitments that the <br />University could make but that those presented did not strike him as "terribly ingenious" <br />ways of dealing with the problem. Putting the cars on I-40 would be one way to make a <br />serious commitment that Carolina North will not be a magnet for cars, said Mayor Foy. <br />Mr. Firstenberg stated that UNC and the Town need a transportation plan that would <br />work over the long term. And that needs to he done by all of the partners together, he <br />said. Mr. Firstenberg said that park and ride was a clear part of the solution. But traffic <br />experts from the Town, University and State need to challenge themselves to determine a <br />plan that will work over time, he said Mr. Firstenberg remarked that park and ride was <br />only part of the answer. <br />Mayor Foy commented that what LTNC has put on the table is not particularly forward <br />thinking. He pointed out that it is fine to say that all will be working together, but there <br />was a certain amount of inertia that is created once the plan is on the table and that plan <br />has 17,000 parking spaces ml site. Mayor Foy said he was asking, why is that? He stated <br />it seemed to him that it is because that's the reality that L1NC is looking at from an <br />economical standpoint, Mayor Foy added that he believed LILAC wanted to work with the <br />Town, but he did not see much creativity in any kind of transit or in the design. Mr. <br />Firstenberg stated that the plan showed how to accommodate the things that they had <br />thought of But it is not a plan to implement possible solutions, he said. <br />Mayor pro tem Wiggins asked Mr. Waldrop if UNC was ready to rethink the parking <br />issue and the transportation plan if University, Town and State representatives could <br />discuss it. "Are you that open to working together," she asked. Mr. Waldrop replied that <br />they were, noting Yhat part of that was being before the Council tonight and having this <br />dialogue. Transportation was clearly a big issue and everyone needed to sit down and <br />work out a plan that would work for all, he said. <br />
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