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<br /> 764 get to discussing,well,what does this really mean? And it's one survey versus two surveys, how
<br /> 765 you'd be guided in making recommendations.
<br /> 766
<br /> 767 Leigh Anne King: So that was part of the reason we asked those specific questions to the Board, because I think,
<br /> 768 the way I read the outcomes of the public engagement is that I think we're hitting the right
<br /> 769 questions, and we're kind of getting to this"where's the sweet spot?"kind of question. We know
<br /> 770 we want to achieve a lot of things, and they all have tradeoffs, so where do we want to kind of line
<br /> 771 up? I think that we're kind of getting to that midpoint where we're hitting that right balance in the
<br /> 772 middle of the Venn diagram. I think,when we take this back out to the public this coming spring,
<br /> 773 that'll be the true test of whether we interpreted their feedback correctly given the guidance that
<br /> 774 we had from the Board. I think there was stronger support for the rural conservation
<br /> 775 neighborhoods,the fact that you can actually protect more land through that type of development
<br /> 776 is, and experientially, it might be a little different, because if you've ever seen a clustered
<br /> 777 subdivision out in a rural area before, it is a denser housing type on part of the site. But you're
<br /> 778 effectively permanently protecting a larger area, and when you subdivide lots into large lots, it's
<br /> 779 not the same thing. You're not permanently protecting those in the same kind of consolidated
<br /> 780 manner. So, I think that that's why we want to do a third round of engagement. Did we get this
<br /> 781 right? And we have to kind of make some judgment calls based on the feedback that we get, and
<br /> 782 that's why we wanted to ask the commissioners for their kind of guidance on how to move forward
<br /> 783 with this work so that we were heading in the direction that they supported.
<br /> 784
<br /> 785 Adam Beeman: On the expansion of economic development, did they give any inclinations or feedback as to what
<br /> 786 type of economic development? Like, industrial or we looking for some retail stuff where we can
<br /> 787 actually go shopping and buy something other than a cement plant or another manufacturing
<br /> 788 facility?
<br /> 789
<br /> 790 Leigh Anne King: Yeah, I think the intention in modeling that was more what we call employment focused uses. So,
<br /> 791 at this level of scenario modeling,we don't really get into the hard details of, like, is this going to
<br /> 792 be an Amazon warehouse space or is this going to be at a manufacturing facility for X,Y, Z
<br /> 793 Company? But I think the intention was there's probably going to be some mix of retail and
<br /> 794 commercial that would go in these areas, but it was predominantly going to be more,what we call
<br /> 795 employment focused. So, you know,you're warehousing,your manufacturing, maybe light
<br /> 796 industrial type uses.
<br /> 797
<br /> 798 Cy Stober: We did receive a critique. It's in the ordinance that we do, and we don't. We don't encourage, 1
<br /> 799 suppose, consumer uses as much as we could in the EDDs,and that needs to be in the table.To
<br /> 800 reduce vehicle miles traveled at lunch hours and so forth, that we need to integrate better.
<br /> 801 Integrate retail and especially restaurants. And, my predecessor, Craig, kind of inched towards
<br /> 802 that, especially introducing restaurants in the ORM District. I think we need to do that more
<br /> 803 broadly. But we also need to consider how we balance that with the primary purpose,which is
<br /> 804 employment and perhaps we have different future land use classes to get,again, at where our
<br /> 805 activity notes are versus our EDDs. We may need to emphasize employment centers, but also
<br /> 806 sustainable in terms of worker needs, like as holistic of a perspective as we can, is that somebody
<br /> 807 who comes there could theoretically walk to get lunch rather than have to get in their car. You got
<br /> 808 1,000 people on the road between 12 and 1, all going to the same places.
<br /> 809
<br /> 810 Adam Beeman: I mean, downtown has a lack of parking because everything has exploded, it's so busy down here.
<br /> 811 Good luck finding parking. But that's beside the point. So,the conservation subdivision, I feel like
<br /> 812 that was the right corner and I just, I personally don't think that we should be pushing towards
<br /> 813 private septic systems, especially since we've had that, I don't know the name of the company, but
<br /> 814 they were just in the news. They own the property and the whole community is on the well and
<br /> 815 they're having issues. I don't think that that's the way we should head. If you want cheaper
<br /> 816 housing,the community is going to have to pay for it through the County, and not private
<br /> 817 investment because,as Fiddlehead showed, it was going to be some stupid cost per unit. So,that
<br /> 818 doesn't do anything to solve the problem for affordability. I just went to a woman in Durham who
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