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37 <br /> DRAFT EXCERPT <br /> 328 Cy Stober: It's about what is effectively the legacy tree and what we're going to prioritize for preservation. If <br /> 329 you feel that's wrongheaded or you'd like to preserve smaller trees,which is what we do today, <br /> 330 then that can be part of your motion. <br /> 331 <br /> 332 Charity Kirk: What is the rationale for changing it from 1 to 2 feet? <br /> 333 <br /> 334 Cy Stober: It's very difficult to enforce that narrow,that small of a DBH for us as staff. To get to Perdita's <br /> 335 earlier point of going out for the pine straw,for staff to go out and measure 1-foot DBH is a much <br /> 336 greater challenge than 2 feet because those are much more obvious. <br /> 337 <br /> 338 Lamar Proctor: My concern on that is just doing some research as to DBH and different types of trees, the DBH <br /> 339 has to be factored in with the growth rate of the tree. But just for example, a red maple with a <br /> 340 DBH of a foot is a 37-year-old tree, so I mean my concern is, and I understand, now that 1 <br /> 341 understand the rationale that it's a time-intensive thing for staff, but I think raising that from 1 foot <br /> 342 to 2 feet, you're only preserving trees that are like 70 or 80 years old, and you're cutting down <br /> 343 trees that are 30 to 50 years old, depending on the tree. The trees have different growth rates, so <br /> 344 in terms of preserving native healthy trees that form an integral part of our ecosystem, I would <br /> 345 oppose increasing that to 24. 1 would keep it at 1 foot. Or somewhere in between. <br /> 346 <br /> 347 Charity Kirk: Eighteen inches? <br /> 348 <br /> 349 Lamar Proctor: I don't know how much time goes into measuring these things or evaluating in these buffer zones <br /> 350 the tree sizes and all that. I mean,just sitting here thinking about it, it does seem a rather labor- <br /> 351 intensive process, but I don't know if you can give me some examples. <br /> 352 <br /> 353 Cy Stober: I can. Other than anecdotes of staff of going out to sites and going, oof, okay. So that was the <br /> 354 response, and this is a reactive amendment. It's again addressing the enforceability of the <br /> 355 ordinance. But to get to look at the consistency with our comprehensive plan,to your point, Mr. <br /> 356 Proctor, I could see why there would be other goals and objectives that are in that comp plan that <br /> 357 would be underserved by reducing this. So, you're not going to hurt our feelings, but it is a <br /> 358 formidable challenge to enforce the 1-foot DBH. <br /> 359 <br /> 360 Charity Kirk: Would 18 inches be easier to enforce? <br /> 361 <br /> 362 Cy Stober: Probably. Just either way we're going to have to get used to a new standard if we change it. <br /> 363 There was not a scientific process to this. We did not do a lot of research on this. It sounds like <br /> 364 Lamar has done more research than most of my staff, other than perhaps Patrick. <br /> 365 <br /> 366 Lamar Proctor: Well, if y'all name a tree I can tell you how approximately, according to these calculations, how old <br /> 367 it is based on 1 foot or a 2 foot. <br /> 368 <br /> 369 Cy Stober: I will also add to this point, if it is a point of concern,while it is a difficult matter to enforce, it is not <br /> 370 creating massive headaches for us as staff. It is not a formidable challenge; it is more about the <br /> 371 clarity of what a 2-foot DBH tree is versus a 1 foot, and we can move forward in either way. <br /> 372 <br /> 373 Chris Johnston: And to confirm, staff is doing this; it's not the applicant who then goes through and provides these <br /> 374 numbers. Correct? <br /> 375 <br /> 376 Cy Stober: In an ideal world, it would be the latter. It is more often than not the staff. <br /> 377 <br /> 378 Chris Johnston: Sure. <br /> 379 <br /> 380 Charity Kirk: Do staff mark the trees that can't be removed? <br /> 381 <br />