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Approved 6.5.24 <br /> 948 <br /> 949 Lamar Proctor: I'm actually... I see the issue. This discussion has helped me clarify the issue. This is a use <br /> 950 that is, once again, it sells mood altering substances in a lot of ways, it's an attractive use, especially to young <br /> 951 people, the way it's marketed, the products it sells. I know from personal experience working in law enforcement <br /> 952 that these places tend to not bring in the best elements, so I do think that they are far more akin to <br /> 953 sexually-oriented business than they are to just like a standard commercial establishment. I think I would be fine <br /> 954 either way with it being 12, 13 as a subject use standards orjust as Conditional Zoning. I guess part of what we've <br /> 955 discussed is the people who really want these businesses would have to go through a lot of steps for Conditional <br /> 956 Zoning that they wouldn't have to go through if it was 12, 13, subject to use standards. <br /> 957 <br /> 958 Cy Stober: That's correct. The Zoning Compliance Permit and staff review does determine if it's <br /> 959 compliant with these standards. <br /> 960 <br /> 961 Lamar Proctor: And these places already exist primarily in strip malls in municipal areas and if we made a <br /> 962 more restrictive, Conditional Zoning only, then that would essentially limit it's spread, and then it would be up to <br /> 963 municipalities on how to deal with them. There's kind of a background issue of the legalization of marijuana, but <br /> 964 that's a different issue, but I could see these establishments, if it became a permitted legal retail sale of <br /> 965 marijuana allowed in North Carolina, which I don't think is going to happen immediately, but I could see these <br /> 966 places converting into that, but that's further down the road. <br /> 967 <br /> 968 Marilyn Carter: So, I'll just weigh in, because I did not understand that and that is why I wanted to make sure <br /> 969 1 heard it articulated at length.That Charity's recommendation,which I understand the intention, I think it's a good <br /> 970 one, but it would also weaken the requirement that's been presented to us, so because it will weaken the <br /> 971 requirement, I personally will vote against moving in that direction now that I understand it it. <br /> 972 <br /> 973 Lamar Proctor: As in 12, 13, right? <br /> 974 <br /> 975 Marilyn Carter: And vote for the original proposal. <br /> 976 <br /> 977 Chris Johnston: Is there another proposal where it's not in any district? Is the Conditional District a waste of <br /> 978 time? <br /> 979 <br /> 980 Beth Bronson: Like it's got to be reserved to a municipality. <br /> 981 <br /> 982 Chris Johnston: And I guess, Cy, like in terms of legality, if a tobacco or vape shop challenged this or <br /> 983 something' along those lines, if it was in no district, is that putting us in a precarious position? <br /> 984 <br /> 985 Cy Stober: I don't know. I'd have to ask the Attorney's Office. I'm not an attorney, so I don't know. <br /> 986 <br /> 987 Beth Bronson: So what you're doing here is you would be defining tobacco and hemp retail, and you're <br /> 988 saying "nowhere." <br /> 989 <br /> 990 Cy Stober: What I can tell you is that this was originally drafted by the Attorney's Office and it did permit <br /> 991 the use with the use standard, so this was an unusual amendment, it was not drafted by Planning staff, it was <br /> 992 drafted by the Attorney's Office, and then given to us for review and discussion and we discussed it, made a <br /> 993 couple modifications, but this is almost exactly what was given to us by the Attorney's Office. <br /> 994 <br /> 995 Chris Johnston: And theirs was a Conditional? <br /> 996 <br /> 997 Cy Stober: I think it was 11, 12, and 13. <br />
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