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<br /> 2 Leon Meyers: You might do that by having the applicant submit an outline of the presentation,a timed outline, is what that would
<br /> 3 take?
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<br /> 5 Beth Bronson: Correct. And again, as I'm saying it, I do not want to obstruct due process, so if the applicant is given up until 24
<br /> 6 hours before or up until 5 minutes before the presentation to add to that presentation, I don't want to deny them that, necessarily,
<br /> 7 because that's their due process. It has everything to do with understanding, up front,what they estimate that time to be and whether
<br /> 8 or not we can let,if it's a,like for,and specifically,if,when it's a public hearing,we let everybody know,which again,de facto,they are
<br /> 9 public hearings, we let the public know or whoever is in the audience know that this presentation and what the applicant has to
<br /> 10 present will exceed 60 minutes or 30 minutes.
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<br /> 12 Leon Meyers: It sounds to me to get where you're suggesting we do, a timed outline would be a requirement so that the Chair or
<br /> 13 somebody,could track the presentation by pieces?
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<br /> 15 Beth Bronson: Correct or even if staff has a timer. I do agree with having staff go back and look at the application process and
<br /> 16 being able to come up with some more formalized way of presenting that without creating a rule or procedure to this.
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<br /> 18 Leon Meyers: Let me ask other board members, how do you feel about the,where we're headed here?
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<br /> 20 Nathan Robinson:The one case we had where they had all the little huts that they were creating. I don't think they could have come
<br /> 21 up with a timed outline. I don't think they could have come up with one and I just feel like we're trying to find a solution in search of a
<br /> 22 problem. I don't see what we're accomplishing. I think The Nest, I don't think they could have come up with it and this last one,we
<br /> 23 were informed ahead of time this is going be a long one. You told us and so we knew that. I don't think it is going be less than 30
<br /> 24 minutes. Our meetings for the last 2 years, it's never been less than 30 minutes.
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<br /> 26 Beth Bronson: What do you mean you don't think they could have come up with a timeline for The Nest?They had a 15-minute
<br /> 27 presentation and then they had a 5-minute owner presentation.
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<br /> 29 Nathan Robinson: If they tell us it's going be 45 minutes and take an hour and 15,we're still going be here an hour and 15,what have
<br /> 30 we done, other than just make a rule?
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<br /> 32 Beth Bronson: Okay, so rather than a timeout line,you mean an outline?
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<br /> 34 Nathan Robinson: If they just give an outline, this is what their presentation is going to be, I think that's fair and then we can see
<br /> 35 where we are in the sequence of it. But having them assign times for how long they think it's going to take and how long, I just think
<br /> 36 it's onerous and I think it puts a burden on them. It doesn't make a difference. At the end of the day, it's not like it,we're not sitting
<br /> 37 here administrating a timed exam where they have to be finished within our 30 minutes. And if we're not administering a timed exam,
<br /> 38 then we don't need to put a time on it.
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<br /> 40 Beth Bronson: Agreed. But I do agree with you in that having an outline of knowing ahead of time that the applicant has seven
<br /> 41 expert witnesses or two expert witnesses is relevant.
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<br /> 43 Nathan Robinson:Just for them to outline their presentation is fair,then it's fair and informative to the people in the audience. Even if
<br /> 44 they don't estimate the time, they can say the traffic guy is going present and then the sound guy is going to present and then
<br /> 45 whatever. We have these other four to lay out their presentation. I don't think that's unreasonable because they know that anyway.
<br /> 46 They're not coming here guessing what they're going to present.
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<br /> 48 Leon Meyers: Adam, Greg,thoughts on this direction?
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<br /> 50 Greg Niemiroski: It just sounds like we can, from fairness, they need to be able to present their case, so trying to limit them is not
<br /> 51 giving a fair hearing in a sense. So, I think the idea Nathan presented with an outline is good. I do agree and I think,The Nest people,
<br /> 52 partly their structure, I think when you have an organization that you're paying to put together your presentation, it's a little different
<br /> 53 sometimes, but when you have a lot of different volunteers and different people interested in the case, it's harder to pin it down. I like
<br /> 54 the idea of a time or an order of events and who the players are. And I like the idea of having their information, everything ahead of
<br /> 55 time. I think that seems reasonable.
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