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rural area preserving nature and putting bike paths on there, people are more likely to use it for those means. But if you’re 154 <br />widening it, I think you’re reducing the likelihood of that going to happen, and I just don’t understand why we’re trying to widen 155 <br />both of those roads. I’m missing something. N. Trivedi: If you look at the existing conditions report, we reviewed it last year, it 156 <br />showed streetlight and modeling data analysis, that 85 wasn't the commuting pattern for the corridor. A. Cole: But if it was 157 <br />widened. N. Trivedi: Data analysis-wise, the study uses the adopted TRM, which includes I-85 widening. Future growth will 158 <br />continue along the corridor itself, affecting local commuting between Mebane and Hillsborough and Durham. A. Cole: So, when 159 <br />you analyzed the traffic density, do we have the parallel data to show how densely populated I-85 was at that same time? It’s 160 <br />congested. If you’re a local person, you’re going to get off and take 70. Do we have the data that says 85 traffic is congested at 161 <br />the same time as 70? N. Trivedi : It is the Triangle Regional Model (TRM) data that shows the future impact of population and 162 <br />employment growth impact on the transportation infrastructure. This data is adopted with the MTP and used by all consultants 163 <br />for all traffic studies. The triangle model showed that even with 85 widened, US 70 still needed to be widened because more 164 <br />people and future businesses are going to keep using US 70. and the development on 70, whether it’s Mebane, Efland, 165 <br />Hillsborough or west Durham, growth of 70 itself that will cause increased traffic on 70. As development grows, we want this 166 <br />plan approved so we can use it as a locally adopted collector street plan to request developers address the impact their growth 167 <br />will cause US 70. It’s not just that it will be a future State project, the developers themselves will be causing the growth and the 168 <br />traffic. 169 <br /> 170 <br />S. Apple. What if the Orange County Commission does not approve this plan, can we still require developers to make 171 <br />improvements? N. Trivedi: Without this locally adopted plan, there is no basis to require any improvement by Developers. S. 172 <br />Apple: Even though this is a “Visionary Report”? N. Trivedi: It becomes a locally adopted plan. That local adoption gives us the 173 <br />authority through the Unified Development Ordinance. Without adoption, there is no authority. 174 <br /> 175 <br />S. Appel: And it could also be that there are parts I would feel comfortable with, some parts that I think are good and are needed 176 <br />for Orange County to be able to constrain Developers or require developers to do things but there are parts of it that I don’t feel 177 <br />comfortable with. N. Trivedi : Please understand without approval, without it being a locally adopted plan, there is no imposing 178 <br />on a Developer or asking a Developer or requesting a Developer-S. Appel: But can we take parts of this plan out, or is it all or 179 <br />nothing? N. Trivedi : You can make the recommendations as you see fit. Staff and TAS have recommended approval. Mebane has 180 <br />approved their portion and endorsed the plan. If you are piecemealing, and taking things away, such as suggesting the bike-ped 181 <br />component without the highway component, you’re telling the County Commissioners to pay for it. Because if you’re saying the 182 <br />bike -ped is good but the widening is not, then Complete Streets no longer applies. 183 <br /> 184 <br />G. Woloszczuk: To Amy’s point about the purpose, my daughter lives near New Bern, and you can go 70 miles an hour, and it is 185 <br />restricted, so what’s the problem we’re trying to solve? The more I think about it, the more I’m unsure what problem we are 186 <br />trying to solve. One minute it’s school traffic, then it’s nature walks. N. Trivedi: That is why the consultant is providing a 187 <br />combination of short-, mid-, and long-term improvements for the full multimodal corridor. 188 <br /> 189 <br />J. Mayo : Looking at the Goals and Objectives that we’ve got up front, it serves Mobility, but I don’t think it serves placemaking, 190 <br />for safety or natural environment to widen 70. I think especially in this part of Orange County and Alamance County 70 doesn’t 191 <br />need to be the controlled access highway. That’s 85’s job and it’s right there. I think the goal should be to make the urban parts 192 <br />of 70 in Hillsborough and Mebane safer and add some of that to Efland as well. The focus on mobility and adding lanes would 193 <br />lead me to not approve this Study. 194 <br /> 195 <br />S. Appel: Regarding the environmental issues, I’ve been consciously looking at the rights-of-way and the trees along the corridor, 196 <br />and heavily forested. She indicated that she was worried about the Federally contracted work/maintenance concerning 197 <br />Stormwater control and the replacement of trees. She cited an example at the bridge at Riverside Drive. Overall concerned with 198 <br />widening the roads would lead to a reduction in tree cover. 199 <br /> 200 <br />R. Marshall: Is it fair to say that there seem to be items in this plan that appear to be at cross purposes to each other? N. Trivedi: 201 <br />advised starting at section 5.1.1.1 which addresses the goals and how they are mapped out. A. Cole requested that each item 202 <br />be explained how it worked toward the goal with data from the consultant. Other members agreed that they needed the data 203 <br />explained to support the mapping and to show the how. Members advised they needed the study to connect the dots for them. 204 <br />Mortality rate concerns from road widening were mentioned. N. Trivedi advised that the AASHTO showed a four-lane divided 205
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