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44 <br /> Commissioner McKee asked if this increase is in addition to the improvements at waste <br /> and recycling centers. <br /> Robert Williams said the waste and recycling centers would have environmental <br /> improvements to allow additional uses at the facilities. He said the infrastructure as part of <br /> Scenario 3 could allow them to take MSW, so they do not have to be transferred outside of the <br /> county by the towns. <br /> Commissioner McKee said that given the fact that they are already looking at costs for <br /> other competing needs, he does not see it getting to $10 million. <br /> Commissioner Richards said there have been challenges with the community engagement <br /> piece. She asked what would be done differently to move forward on what has occurred <br /> previously. <br /> Jennifer Porter said the idea is not additional new sites but reimagining how current sites <br /> are being used. She said that Scenario 3 is a phased master plan of Eubanks Rd. or an alternate <br /> site. She said that Eubanks is great because there is flexibility there for organics processing and <br /> MSW. <br /> Commissioner Richards said that would still require community engagement for that <br /> process in an area where the county's legacy is not stellar. She asked how they envision meeting <br /> this challenge. <br /> Jennifer Porter said they have this as a center question during the whole project. She said <br /> they will continue to meet with stakeholders. <br /> Commissioner Richards asked where the waste is being taken and if it was being taken <br /> to a lower wealth county in the eastern part of the state. <br /> Robert Williams said the waste is transported to Randolph County. <br /> Chair Bedford said that Randolph County is not a minority low-wealth county. <br /> Commissioner Richards said it is lower income than Orange County. <br /> Commissioner Fowler said if the waste is being transferred that is not taking it to zero. <br /> She asked if any of the efforts to take it to zero would reduce the amount that is being used or if <br /> it would impact the need for a transfer station. <br /> Chris Lund said the transfer of the waste will be needed for the growth over time and if <br /> they are going to increase diversion, they will need a facility to do that. He said that if it does not <br /> go to the landfill, it must go to other useful locations. <br /> Commissioner Fowler asked if there is a place where the BOCC can have an impact on <br /> prevention. <br /> Jennifer Porter said Scenario 1 has the direction for waste prevention policies and policy <br /> changes would be provided in the direction. <br /> PUBLIC COMMENTS: <br /> Susan Walser said currently there is disparity between the Town services and County <br /> services. She said that Option 3 has an increase of over$40 per household. She said many rural <br /> residents do their own composting and their own yard pick up. She said they do not use vendor <br /> services for trash pickup or county recycling, and they go directly to the convenience centers. She <br /> said that the fee would increase but they would not get the services they need. She said they <br /> should review private trash hauling in the rural county if they want to decrease vehicle miles. She <br /> said it would be good to look at rural services and in-town services and the appropriate fee <br /> structure. She said it would also be good to look at household fees in surrounding counties areas. <br /> She said Wake County has a $20 fee and they are looking at $200. <br /> Marilee McTigue said she is pleased to see a Solid Waste plan. She said that <br /> recommendation 16 of Scenario 3 talks about two waste transfer stations. She said this is the <br /> costliest and contains little detail. She said that this has been highly controversial in the past. She <br /> said that she believes that the Centroid of waste production should be where waste is handled <br />