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25 <br /> 947 <br /> 948 Craig Nishimoto: That's what I foresee. Yeah. There comes a point when you're traveling more than 30 <br /> 949 minutes away to do tree work where you lose efficiency, and you better open up a satellite or just let <br /> 950 somebody else have that work, and so we really think we are serving this local area. <br /> 951 <br /> 952 Delores Bailey: And my second question was, I thought I heard you mention that you were close to the <br /> 953 landfill. Do you have a picture of that? Can you locate that? <br /> 954 <br /> 955 Craig Nishimoto: And then the landfill is this, and you can see it's a big hill that's been sealed and covered, <br /> 956 and now it's just a hill of grass, but that's the first part. That's where they were first doing their landfilling <br /> 957 activities, and now, if you go farther south of there, then you have the grinding operation, the Recycling Center, <br /> 958 and if you go across Eubanks Road, that's a new part of their landfill that has recently shut down, I think. <br /> 959 <br /> 960 Marilyn Carter: So, Dr. Nishimoto, your package was incredibly well done. I'm not an expert on the UDO <br /> 961 nor the Comprehensive Plan. We have some other folks who are here, but it read extremely clearly. You <br /> 962 addressed almost all of the questions I had. And so I just want to commend you on an excellent job in your <br /> 963 packet. I do have a couple of questions. You mentioned, and you addressed this in your packet, the <br /> 964 precedent of why the Rural Buffer. And misuse of this land use is a precedent, but it's not a concerning <br /> 965 precedent, and briefly can you briefly cover that? <br /> 966 <br /> 967 Craig Nishimoto: This would be Section 9 of my detailed narrative. I'm glad you asked because I think this <br /> 968 is the crux of the issue. This is why this is an issue. I would say there's about five related arguments, and <br /> 969 they're very brief, and the first is that if we look at the Comprehensive Plan with a fine tooth comb there are <br /> 970 three places where it talks about limiting development in the Rural Buffer. The first thing that we notice is that <br /> 971 even if we took those three things as invaluable laws, like 10 Commandment-level laws, what we are doing is <br /> 972 not in conflict with them. The wording does not prohibit them. Secondly, building on that point, it would have <br /> 973 been very easy to have rewritten those so that it would have prohibited what we're doing by just making the <br /> 974 language a little stronger. If it just changed a couple words, it would have prohibited what we have done. It <br /> 975 looks intentionally meant to build in flexibility. Why? Because the Comprehensive Plan, it is known that not all <br /> 976 of these goals and objectives are compatible with each other. They acknowledge there's going to be conflicts. <br /> 977 There's going to have to be tradeoffs. There's built into these goals and objectives, room for judgment. So, <br /> 978 then the third, the argument would be if it were the case that what we're trying to do is in conflict with these <br /> 979 three sort of statements about the Rural Buffer, then many of the other things that are permitted would also be <br /> 980 in conflict, or conversely, if some of the things that are expressly permitted are accepted, then ours should be <br /> 981 as well. So, you can imagine why should a large facility solar array be allowed in the Rural Buffer if that <br /> 982 violates the intensive non-residential uses? Well, that's permitted, but it's certainly not more intensive than <br /> 983 anything that we are planning to do. One of the principles here about the Rural Buffer is to encourage a <br /> 984 separation of urban and rural land uses. Well, then why should they allow these government facilities and <br /> 985 office buildings like the Town of Chapel Hill Public Works, but it's not permissible for us to build an office space <br /> 986 to accommodate our clerical staff? Then the third example is the objective in these principles is to maintain the <br /> 987 rural low density land as Rural Buffer. Then why would it be permissible to build kennels, care facilities, <br /> 988 recreational facilities, artificial turf and lights, artificial lights. Why is that consistent with rural land but not for <br /> 989 us to create an indoor and outdoor facility to train future tree workers? And then fourth, there's a burden of <br /> 990 proof problem here. We have, like I said, listed a lot of things that we are totally in alignment with. We are <br /> 991 solving County problems, County needs, and these things don't prohibit us. You got to just not say that, "Oh, <br /> 992 there's a little tension in between three of these things." You've listed dozens of things where you are helping <br /> 993 the Comprehensive Plan or you're in line and you're advancing it's programs and its goals, but there's a little <br /> 994 tension between three of these statements. Well, then show us how that problem overrides all of the positive <br /> 995 things we're doing. I think it's a burden of proof problem. And then finally, and I think this is crux. If the Board <br /> 996 of County Commissioners allows what we're doing, this does not, in any way, open the flood gates for more <br />