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APPROVED <br /> closing both of those. And so to the point that was made earlier to kind of take a line with two <br /> points and you take the end points off the line and put a new point in the middle, now some <br /> people have to drive twice as far in some cases to get to the convenience center. So for a lot of <br /> people a 15-minute trip becomes 30 or half an hour round trip. And we know when these <br /> centers aren't nearby, a lot of people end of illegally burning and dumping on the roadside more, <br /> because it's not convenient. So I'm curious why we're making it harder for people to do the right <br /> thing. Someone in the meeting also said it would reduce emissions, which I couldn't quite make <br /> that math work in my mind. We were told this is better for the environment. The proposal is to <br /> abandon 2 sites that have already been polluted so that we can now clear 6 acres on a third <br /> site, pave it over, remove all the trees and then make an even bigger one. So I struggled with <br /> that aspect. We asked why the existing sites couldn't be upgraded and we were told that they're <br /> too small and you can't queue cars well, you can't get trucks in and out, you can't fit <br /> compactors, you can't have waste type bins, but then I look at the dozen or so convenience <br /> centers in Wake County, which is where I grew up, and they're all on a small footprint. They're <br /> using the same amount of acreage as Bradshaw or Ferguson or less, and they're paved, and <br /> they have compactors, and they have waste level bins and they have better traffic designs. And <br /> in a lot of cases, they're doing this on an acre or an acre and a half at Deponie Dr and an acre <br /> and a quarter at Durham Rd and New Hill-Holleman, less than an acre Aviation Parkway and <br /> Battle Bridge. And we've got two acres to work with at Ferguson and Bradshaw and could <br /> probably grow a bit if you'd just ask. This is starting to feel like some of these arguments just <br /> aren't quite credible. This feels like an internally generated project. It's become a little bit <br /> detached from the actual needs being articulated by residents, at least in the rural part of the <br /> county. The last I'll say on the topic of the new facility is we've had this talk about kind of shifting <br /> focus for waste reduction. So why are we trying to justify a multimillion-dollar 6-acre center. And <br /> I struggle to understand why we're paying $142 a year and they're paying $20 a year in waste. <br /> worry that we're getting better at overspending and over engineering than we are at recycling <br /> waste management. Alright thank you. <br /> Fowler says that's the last speaker. Any other comments here tonight? Otherwise, meeting is <br /> adjourned. <br /> Adjourn <br /> Meeting adjourned at: 8:26pm <br /> Name of Minute Taker: Dena Brown <br />