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16 <br /> 1 Chair Bedford said she initially began going as part of the Orange County Partnership to <br /> 2 End Homelessness. She said that it took a bit, but she figured out what it was she did not care <br /> 3 for. She said they did not get information ahead of meetings and she did not want to make <br /> 4 decisions without preparation. She said that she also decided that she would not be bringing <br /> 5 back a recommendation to her Board from these meetings. She said it put her in the position of <br /> 6 speaking for the Board without actually checking with her colleagues first. She said the minutes <br /> 7 are a must have but it also presents an opportunity for a chair or mayor to work outside of their <br /> 8 boards. She said Commissioner Greene asked if the meetings should be recorded. She said <br /> 9 that at that point, she did not think it should be recorded. She said the other question is if it <br /> 10 should be a public meeting. <br /> 11 Commissioner Portie-Ascott if there was an informal meeting group before the MMC. <br /> 12 Bonnie Hammersley said there was not a group meeting regularly before the MMC. She <br /> 13 said at most it was managers and mayors meeting to set agendas for joint meetings. She said <br /> 14 in 2016 at the Assembly of Government, they were talking about the Greene Tract, and it was <br /> 15 always once a year. She said that it was created to facilitate additional conversations about the <br /> 16 Greene Tract. She said before 2016, there had been a task force, but nothing had happened for <br /> 17 a long time, and it led to a lot of frustration. She said that the benefit of the MMC is that there <br /> 18 has been more progress in the last 7 years than there was before. She said one of the <br /> 19 concerns she had was when it started to grow bigger than the Greene Tract. She said that they <br /> 20 brought the Partnership to End Homelessness and she did not feel there was a reason to bring <br /> 21 those items before the MMC because they already get brought to the full boards. She said that <br /> 22 the mayors have more authority than a chair does, since mayors are elected by the people. <br /> 23 Commissioner Portie-Ascott said it seems like it would be a great idea to have a group <br /> 24 like the MMC to discuss those common issues. She said maybe some tweaking could be done <br /> 25 to provide more direction. <br /> 26 Commissioner Hamilton said she had a concern about the MMC making decisions. She <br /> 27 said with the Greene Tract, there was a clear directive. She said with the other topics, there <br /> 28 was no clear direction. She said a smaller group making decisions holds up information <br /> 29 sharing. She said she thought the meetings should be open to anyone. She said the role of <br /> 30 setting joint agendas makes sense. She said that she did not see the group serving the Board <br /> 31 well. <br /> 32 Chair Bedford said the full set of Greene Tract minutes are not on the website, but they <br /> 33 put summaries up. She said they did not do that for other discussion items. <br /> 34 Commissioner Hamilton said the problem is that topics should not be discussed without <br /> 35 a mandate from the boards. <br /> 36 Chair Bedford said that is exactly what this portion of the meeting is to talk about and <br /> 37 figure out. <br /> 38 Commissioner Hamilton said she thinks no. <br /> 39 Commissioner Fowler said that she agrees with the need for a limited scope because <br /> 40 there are already intergovernmental bodies to discuss those topics. <br /> 41 Commissioner Richards said she thinks there are things that happen in Orange County <br /> 42 where getting the leadership together to talk about them is a good thing. She said that access to <br /> 43 the meetings is a concern. She said that said in one of the minutes it seemed like the MMC was <br /> 44 going to appoint itself as a task force to do something and that the scope should be limited. She <br /> 45 said it did not actually happen, but it seemed like it was limiting input and participation. She said <br /> 46 the Assembly of Governments does not seem like the time to make decisions since the time is <br /> 47 brief. She asked if staff should be meeting instead and then bringing information to the Board. <br /> 48 Bonnie Hammersley said she meets with the managers and OWASA director monthly. <br /> 49 She said when she hears things that might be coming, she shares it with the Chair. She said <br /> 50 this is natural protocol. She said Commissioner Greene had asked her if the MMC meetings <br /> 51 might be recorded because she has an interest in discussions about homelessness and was <br />
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