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Approved & T23 <br /> 604 Cy Stober: That is my analysis , yes . <br /> 605 . <br /> 606 Statler Gilfillen : The question I have next would be the one that I inappropriately started to ask earlier of the lawyer, you <br /> 607 mentioned that within 2 years they would correct a traffic issue , if in the first 3 months you build a development on this <br /> 608 property that causes severe traffic problems because you have not finished what you planned in 2 years , what plans do <br /> 609 you have? <br /> 610 <br /> 611 Patrick Byker: I would have to take issue with that characterization . The point is that the first year' s student enrollment <br /> 612 would be 150 students , that is fairly minor increase in traffic . The timing is important because we need to survey, design , <br /> 613 go through NCDOT review, and obtain approval before we can even let a contractor build those turn lanes . That is a time <br /> 614 consuming and expensive undertaking and that is why it is not really possible to have done on day one in conjunction <br /> 615 with the school being built . However, if we discover going through this process that there is a driveway constraint or <br /> 616 another constraint that does not allow the development team to build the turn lane themselves , we will just write a check <br /> 617 to Orange County NCDOT for them to build a turn lane since they have . . . . authority and we would write that check <br /> 618 before the school opens . <br /> 619 <br /> 620 Statler Gilfillen : I am the Eno River Township representative . I am probably the closest person to this site . I use <br /> 621 Lawrence Road on a ongoing basis . I have a number of specific questions . You or Jim Parker may be able to answer <br /> 622 these . A question was raised tonight about specific plans on the corner of NC10 and Lawrence Road . I am not sure what <br /> 623 plans you have but I am aware that that is already a difficult intersection . I believe there is a historic house with a marble <br /> 624 stone wall around it at the intersection that may get impacted historically . Do you have any plans or comments regarding <br /> 625 that intersection ? <br /> 626 <br /> 627 Patrick Byker: I would like to bring up our team just so that we make sure we answer your question as thoroughly as we <br /> 628 can . I will say on the record , that since this a conditional use zoning atlas amendment, pursuant to NC GS 160D 73B , <br /> 629 you are allowed to offer conditions . I will say on the record tonight, subject to NCDOT approval , we will install a median <br /> 630 on Lawrence Road at the Old NC 10 intersection . Now to answer your questions as to how we got to that point, Lyle , will <br /> 631 you give a background on the study area please? This is Lyle Overcash our traffic engineer who specializes in school <br /> 632 traffic . <br /> 633 <br /> 634 Lyle Overcash : A lot of good comments from the neighbors , Old NC10 and Lawrence Road was brought up early in the <br /> 635 scoping process , the county asked for that intersection to be included in the study area . The development overall was <br /> 636 about 4 , 000 vehicles a day . NCDOT felt like with such a minor volume it was highly unlikely that they would make any <br /> 637 kind of improvements there . The intersection is on the HSIE list so it has an accident history . A gentleman earlier in the <br /> 638 meeting made a good suggestion about putting a median on NC10 , to prevent folks from cutting the corner. We haven 't <br /> 639 studied that . Someone else had mentioned that folks are running through the intersection , maybe not stopping . It sounds <br /> 640 like if you added a median on Lawrence Road , just looking at a street view while the meeting was going on , I don ' t see a <br /> 641 lot of striping that is noticeable, so I think through adding some additional striping , a stop bar, possibly adding that <br /> 642 median , and what that median would do is allow you to put up another stop sign . So that would give you two stop signs <br /> 643 as you approach that intersection so maybe that would help prevent some people from running through the intersection . <br /> 644 Again , we didn ' t study that intersection in the TIA, those are just some suggestions that came to us . <br /> 645 <br /> 646 Statler Gilfillen : Have you done any studies comparing accident rates with traffic on NC10/Lawrence Rd compared to <br /> 647 comparable areas ? <br /> 648 <br /> 649 Lyle Overcash : No , we didn ' t study NC10 . <br /> 650 <br /> 651 Statler Gilfillen : One of the people here in the audience has raised that point that several accidents have happened on <br /> 652 Lawrence Road . Being someone that uses it, I am concerned about that . <br /> 653 <br /> 654 Lyle Overcash : The posted speed limit on Lawrence Rd . is 45 mph . . . . when we would build this development, we would <br /> 655 petition the DOT to make that area a school zone through that area so we would try to reduce the speed limit during <br /> 656 school hours to 35 mph so that would give it at least a window particularly during the AM peak hour to try to reduce the <br /> 657 speeds through that area . <br /> 658 <br />
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