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26 <br /> • Suggests combining projects between county and school <br /> districts to mitigate this issue <br /> ■ Question: Renee asks if older schools are being bandaided, if they <br /> match the needs of the 21St century <br /> • Patrick discusses the increased costs for new schools — says <br /> $40 M for Elem $100 M for High School <br /> ■ Question: Bonnie asks if costs of schools are driven by being <br /> designed to last 50 years. Is there a model where we build schools <br /> for 20 years? <br /> ■ Renee and Bonnie point out the design of Grady Brown do not <br /> match the modern safety standards <br /> o Andre to present CHCCS report slideshow <br /> ■ 9 structures that are over 50 years, newer structures are 10 — 30 <br /> years old <br /> ■ Worked with external consultant to plan different structures <br /> determined 3 options <br /> ■ Eric to discuss difference between repair v new schools <br /> • New structures may cost more but can save costs in long <br /> run <br /> • Wake County high school building 2200 kids $176 M costs <br /> • Question: Jean asks about the cost of land, and how do you move <br /> kids from structure in repair? <br /> • Eric suggests different models, both moving into swing <br /> space - building temporary facility - vs keep students on <br /> site. Both add costs. <br /> ■ Question: Bonnie asked about charter school's cheaper <br /> construction costs. How can we use those efficiencies? <br /> • Eric discuss meeting with construction, generating <br /> efficiencies in constructions and operating costs. <br /> ■ Question: Bonnie wants group to review innovations in building <br /> standards and structures to make efficiencies <br /> • Patrick discussed getting best practices session from other <br /> entities. SOG, other schools. <br /> 2. Peer Jurisdiction School Maintenance Report Outs <br /> o Patrick to discuss OCS construction standards, notes other counties <br /> that use DPI standards. Orange County standards are out of date and <br /> drive up costs. Discuss how schools need to construct for growth, i.e. <br /> larger elementary schools. <br /> • Patrick discussed hiring and retention in trade staff, turnover <br /> drives costs, delays <br /> o Eric shows slide on CHCCS classified employee study, to determine <br /> proper salary ranges. <br /> • Discuss hiring construction professionals as project managers, <br /> can be costed in the project budgets. <br /> o Question: Bonnie asks about hiring versus contracting for this staff. <br />