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20 <br /> into area B, but it was not a decision. He said the money for this amendment, and the last, can <br /> just be left in the budget as placeholders. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said it would be worth it for the areas mentioned to be <br /> separated. He agrees with keeping B in the plan, because there were collectively more <br /> questions about that area. He said there was general agreement about areas C, D, and E <br /> being taken out for the time being. He asked if the savings of$1.06 million could be parsed out <br /> to show the amount that would apply to each area. <br /> Commissioner Bedford asked if the Planning Department staff could do that. <br /> Bonnie Hammersley said yes. <br /> Commissioner Hamilton said she understands the Manager's point that the money is <br /> flexible, when it is left as a placeholder, but if it is allocated and not used for the reason listed in <br /> the budget, the money does not get spent on other projects that are needed. <br /> Commissioner Fowler said she agrees with Commissioner Dorosin's request to parse <br /> the areas out, because removing C, D, and E from the CIP over the next five years would affect <br /> the debt service. <br /> Bonnie Hammersley said that is correct, depending on what that is. She said this is for <br /> water and sewer, and it may just be there regardless. She said staff will look at it. <br /> Chair Price said the Board barely spoke about C, D, and E. She said the Board was <br /> interested in moving forward with A, and possibly considering B. <br /> Paul Laughton reminded the Commissioners that the water and sewer projects are not <br /> tax-supported debts. He said these projects are Article 46 funded, and thus are outside general <br /> fund debt for both of these projects. <br /> Commissioner Bedford explained her next amendment, and said she is more fiscally <br /> conservative. She said she spoke with Durham Tech President, JB Buxton, and assured him <br /> the Commissioners are looking at $3.08 million for first year planning and site development. <br /> She said there may be a delay for a year or two thereafter. She said after seeing all of the <br /> needs throughout the budget sessions, she feels it is not wise to spend the $25.6 million on this <br /> project right now. She said ARPA funds are one time, and the needs that have arisen during <br /> Covid may be pandemic related, but also may have always existed, and just been unmasked by <br /> Covid. She said she also realizes that staff will not have a pay increase. She said when the <br /> moratorium is lifted on evictions she expects there will be a landslide of needs. She said school <br /> districts will also need more funding as they spend down their general fund balances. She said <br /> Durham Tech is getting $10 million in its own ARPA funds. She said the County is struggling to <br /> make its hypothetical car payment, and it seems unwise to borrow money to buy a boat. She <br /> said she appreciates that this project is an investment in education. She said she recommends <br /> pushing this project out to years six and seven in the plan, where it was originally before being <br /> expedited last year, when some current debt will already be paid off, and more will be available <br /> for operating dollars. <br /> Chair Price said she understands Commissioner Bedford's points, but also views this <br /> expansion as an investment. She said the topic has been on the table a long time, and there is <br /> an increase in the demand for community college education. She said the expansion needs to <br /> be done. She said the proposed site is ideally located near UNC Hospital's Hillsborough <br /> campus and medical center, which provides an opportunity for partnership and training. She <br /> said people that have lost jobs during the pandemic will need support to find new ones including <br /> training. She said one way to get around homelessness and low incomes is to have a good job, <br /> which requires training and education. She said Durham Tech is also an expansion of the K-12 <br /> system, as Commissioner Bedford mentioned, and students go to the middle college there and <br /> receive high school diplomas and associate's degree at the same time, and go onto a four-year <br /> college thereafter. She said ARPA funds cannot be used for capital improvements, and she <br /> feels very strongly that this project should stay on track. <br />