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9 <br /> 1 Perdita Holtz said it came from State language. <br /> 2 Commissioner Hamilton said she agrees with Commissioner Bedford, and does not want <br /> 3 to change the notice from 15 to 10 days. She said she wants to signal to residents that they <br /> 4 have been heard regarding adequate notice. <br /> 5 Commissioner Hamilton referred to section 2.712, which discusses giving notice about <br /> 6 special permits within reasonable time. She said this is vague, and needs specification. She <br /> 7 said the previous 5 days may not have been enough, but she would like more specificity. <br /> 8 <br /> 9 Commissioner Dorosin rejoined the meeting at 7:51 p.m. <br /> 10 <br /> 11 James Bryan said this is notice of something that is already done, rather than telling the <br /> 12 public something will be done. He said residents go to the Board of Adjustment with special use <br /> 13 permits, and have already had notices leading up, then the quasi-judicial hearing, then the <br /> 14 Board of Adjustment makes a decision of yes or no. He said usually parties are in the room, <br /> 15 and within 5 days, staff will mail a letter about what happened at the hearing. He said this is <br /> 16 usually unnecessary because of everyone being in the room. He said the Board's action only <br /> 17 takes effect when reduced in writing and signed by the chair. He said this normally did not <br /> 18 happen within 5 days because a lot can happen at hearings. He said there has to be a finding <br /> 19 of fact, which is dependent on testimony and witnesses, and staff often has to wait for minutes <br /> 20 before sending the notice. He said that document starts clock for appealing the decision with <br /> 21 Superior Court. He said 5 days is a quick turnover and it confuses some people who think 30 <br /> 22 days starts from vote or notice, but is actually from the date the ordinance is signed by the chair. <br /> 23 He said the Board of Adjustment makes Quasi-judicial decisions, and the current chair agrees <br /> 24 this is confusing for the public, and wanted to streamline it. <br /> 25 Commissioner Hamilton said she can understand that 5 days is not enough time, with all <br /> 26 of the steps that need to be taken, but finds the wording "reasonable time" adds more <br /> 27 confusion. She said there should be some timeline so people do not argue about defining <br /> 28 reasonableness. <br /> 29 James Bryan said it is required by statute that the Board of Adjustment has to do it and <br /> 30 the Board chair has to sign it. He said some meetings span over several nights or several <br /> 31 months, while others are very simple. <br /> 32 Commissioner Hamilton clarified that the letter is sent after the decision is made, so it <br /> 33 seems there could be a timeframe since everything has been done up to that point. <br /> 34 Chair Price said if the issue is the word "reasonable", it is part of general legalese and <br /> 35 asked an attorney on the call to comment about that. <br /> 36 Commissioner Dorosin said he thinks "reasonable" is ambiguous. He suggested <br /> 37 removing the option for a copy of the decision to be provided before it becomes effective. He <br /> 38 said if clock only starts running after the decision is effective, then he would go with 10 days <br /> 39 instead of 5. <br /> 40 Chair Price asked if the term "reasonable" is from the state statute. <br /> 41 <br /> 42 Commissioner Dorosin exited the meeting at 7:59 p.m. <br /> 43 <br /> 44 James Bryan said staff has used this wording to reflect the state statute. He said the <br /> 45 state statute requires the decision to be reduced to writing, given to all parties, be noticed in the <br /> 46 newspaper. He said Orange County gives notice, which is different from the written order. He <br /> 47 said the statute says the Ordinance has to be given to everyone, but does not clarify a <br /> 48 timeframe, so he and Planning staff suggested "reasonable". He said since the statute does not <br /> 49 have a timeframe, someone would have to go into superior court and file a writ of mandamus. <br /> 50 He said this change puts the onus on the County to at least be reasonable. He said he does <br />
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