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Approved 5.5.21 280 Whitney Watson: I want to go back to the notice question, especially any kind of posted signage,while the LIDO had 281 plenty of places where it's very prescriptive, I'd like to add one more. Signage that's posted in a yard or the right-of-way 282 needs to meet standards for legibility and readability just like we expect billboards to be able to be read when someone is 283 driving by at 35 mph. There are a number that pop up around that western side of Orange County that I just can't read. If 284 that could somehow be specified. I'm sure the DOT folks could tell you how big the letters need to be to be seen at various 285 speed limits. 286 287 Perdita Holtz: If I could address that, the County does attempt to put a lot of information on those signs. I don't know if 288 you have seen other places in North Carolina where you'll see an 8'/2 x 11 yellow sign that just has a Z on it,which means 289 zoning, and it has the phone number for the planning department. That is how a lot of places advertise that something is 290 happening on the property. We could go to something like that. Having a sign with all the information that we attempt to 291 put on it could result in a 4 ft. by 8 ft.sign and staff puts those up and staff does it in a County vehicle or personal vehicle 292 and that would be pretty big to fit into those vehicles. If there is a general feeling that the sign needs to be larger,we 293 would need to take a look how much we actually try to put on the sign and whether we should try to emulate the Z signs 294 that so many other places use. 295 296 Craig Benedict: Maybe with a website address and a phone number and then with the big Z. That is what people are 297 using now for information gathering. 298 299 Adam Beeman: Maybe not even a bigger sign but taller poles to stand it on so it isn't so low to the ground. That may help 300 visibility. 301 302 Whitney Watson: I would be in favor of less information that is more readable and getting it up higher would be great. 303 304 Lamar Proctor: I agree with Whitney and I think this dovetails into my initial question about putting stuff on the website. 1 305 think it gives better notice to people to have a big Z and say look there's something going on, go here and you can read 306 about it. You're trying to put as much information as you can and I think the big point of the sign is to put people on notice 307 that something is going on. They are not going to get the details from their car but they will get the notice if it's a larger Z 308 than if it's a small signer that could be easily be confused with a work permit or something. 309 310 Perdita Holtz: Understood, the current way it came to be is because people complained that there wasn't enough 311 information on the sign and they had to go somewhere else. 312 313 David Blankfard: Can you also put the date of whatever is going to happen, like on April 10, 2021 and then people will 314 know something is happening that day and go find out what it is. 315 316 Michael Harvey: Just to remind the Planning Board that there are statutory minimum requirements you have to post the 317 date,time, location and nature of a public hearing. The problem is getting all that on a sign that the Department of 318 Transportation won't rip down. In the 16 or so years I've been here,we have attempted numerous different sign options 319 and as Craig and Perdita can attest,we've had several sign taken by the North Carolina Department of Transportation 320 over the years. We even had signs removed as part of the Efland Station project because the Department of 321 Transportation said they were too high or were too large and violated their sign policy. We have multiple avenues for 322 information being provided to local residents on the numerous projects that are reviewed by both the Planning Board and 323 the County Commissioners. We've been tasked with studying the issue again and we will do so. I'm not sure we can 324 come up with accommodations that will address everybody's concerns. 325 326 Carrie Fletcher: Since we have a lot of new members, can we go back to having the pre-meeting training sessions to help 327 get people more information on the conditional, non-conditional and some of the new terminology. Those kind of pre- 328 meeting instructional programs for people to learn some of the idiosyncrasies of the Planning Board. 329 330 Perdita: Holtz: Yes,what I did was a series of training sessions which I was planning to start again since we do have new 331 members. That's something that I'll look at doing,as soon as the 160D amendments are adopted. I want be able to give 332 the correct information. 333