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5 <br /> the Board to have more authority, and enable the BOCC to have representation in ABC financial <br /> and personnel decisions. <br /> Commissioner McKee said he does not hear of any concerns with the current ABC <br /> board members, and the BOCC goes to great lengths to get the community involved. He said <br /> he has served as the liaison to the ABC Board twice, and found the members to be very <br /> responsive to any input that he gave. He said he is not sure how this change would help the <br /> BOCC. <br /> Commissioner Price said when she served on the Board she thought about this change, <br /> but realized that the BOCC appoints the other five members and the Chair of the ABC Board. <br /> She said those appointees represent the BOCC, and it is okay if the Commissioner liaison does <br /> not have a vote. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said it is important for the BOCC to have a vote on the Board. <br /> He said having a direct voice in decision-making is critical. He said there has always been <br /> heavy representation from law enforcement on the ABC Board. He said the ABC Board <br /> generates a lot of revenue, and is involved with social services programs about which the <br /> BOCC is concerned. He said having an equal vote is important. <br /> Commissioner Rich said there are also other boards on which the BOCC has a vote, <br /> such as the Visitors Bureau, Home Trust, GoTriangle, etc. <br /> Commissioner Bedford said both she and Commissioner Greene were on a seminar <br /> today about community engagement, and the timing was perfect for this agenda item. She said <br /> the discussion focused on the value of broad community participation, with which she strongly <br /> agrees. She said leadership should be spread out, diluted, and shared with the community. <br /> She said prior to becoming a Commissioner, she served on the ABC Board. She said she could <br /> have continued serving, but felt it was very much a conflict of interest and thus resigned once <br /> elected a Commissioner. She referred to the chart on Table 2, and said 17% is spent on law <br /> enforcement, but also 26% on non-profits. She said the ABC Board pays a living wage, which <br /> reduces its profit, and gives 64% of profit away. She said this could be higher, but given <br /> COVID, there may not have been as much revenue as normal, and it is wise to be conservative. <br /> She said the ABC Board has a rigorous capital improvement plan in place. She said if a funding <br /> request is needed, it should be made, but otherwise she would prefer to leave this board alone. <br /> Commissioner Greene asked if the conflict of interest could be clarified. <br /> Chair Rich said the possible conflict of interest is because the ABC Board members <br /> receive a stipend, and BOCC members should not vote of adjusting the stipend. <br /> Commissioner Price said she could go either way. She said the difference with the ABC <br /> Board is that the Commissioners appoint each member to the ABC Board, as well as the chair, <br /> as opposed to other boards where Commissioners serve and have a vote, but do not select the <br /> other board members. She said there must be five members, and she does not want to remove <br /> any of the current ABC Board members. <br /> Commissioner Dorosin said having one seat as a voting member would not eliminate <br /> participatory democracy. He said he does not see any issues of malfeasance, but does find the <br /> ABC Board to be very dependent on the staff. He said he heard a lot of grievances from ABC <br /> employees. He said having a Commissioner, as a voting member, is important as the liaison <br /> only has a power of persuasion. He said he would not recommend removing the current <br /> incumbent, but following John Roberts' comments to replace a member once their term is over. <br /> Chair Rich agreed with Commissioner Dorosin. She said this item can come to a <br /> business meeting for a vote. <br /> Commissioner Bedford asked if the ABC Board's opinion on this matter could be sought. <br /> Commissioner Price agreed with Commissioner Bedford. <br /> Commissioner Marcoplos said he supports voting yes to having a voting member on the <br /> ABC Board. He said influence in the votes is one thing, but the BOCC must also be fully <br /> informed on all matters of this board. <br />