Agenda - 09-10-20; Item 2 - Follow-up Discussion on County Capital Investment Plan (CIP) Years 2 through 5

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8 1 Commissioner McKee said he feels the same about all of these entities: he does 2 not get a lot individually, but the County does receive benefits. He said the cost of the 3 memberships is very small, and he sees greater benefit in remaining a member of each 4 entity. 5 Commissioner McKee said he will oppose defunding each of these 6 memberships. 7 Commissioner Dorosin said these organizations provide different levels of 8 support to the County. He said he sees limited benefit from NACo, and North Carolina 9 Association of County Commissioners (NCACC); but the Triangle J Council of 10 Governments (TJCOG) and the School of Government (SOG) are closer to the County's 11 regions and needs, and provide valuable resources. He said he would like to know 12 more about what is actually received for each of these fees, and any savings are good 13 savings, if the expense is not providing value. 14 Commissioner Greene said she knows nothing about NACo. 15 Chair Rich said she is the Board's representative to NACo this year, and in the 16 past she was on the telecommunications committee, and became frustrated with the 17 organization. She said NACo does provide some value if one attends NACo 18 conferences for specific areas. 19 Commissioner Price said one gets out of NACo what one puts it into it. She has 20 been involved in different committees, and NACo is basically a lobbying organization. 21 She said one area of great impact was in housing funding, as well as arts and culture 22 being recognized as an economic driver. She said NCACC works in conjunction with 23 NACo and SOG, and the trainings offered by these entities are very valuable. 24 Bonnie Hammersley said from a staff viewpoint, NACo is directed toward elected 25 officials. She said NACo and NCACC are lobbying organizations, one on the national 26 level and one on the state level. 27 Commissioner Greene said the amount is under $3000/year, and Commissioner 28 Price's comments are helpful. She said many Commissioners are more conservative, 29 and the Orange County BOCC is typically not, and being heard is important. 30 Commissioner McKee agreed with Commissioner Greene, and said it is 31 important to continue to have a voice. 32 Commissioner Marcoplos said he does not think the BOCC has an impact on the 33 rural/urban divide by being a part of NACo, but perhaps it does by being a part of 34 NCACC. 35 36 A motion was made by Commissioner Marcoplos, seconded by Commissioner 37 Dorosin to defund NACo. 38 39 VOTE: Ayes, 2 (Commissioner Marcoplos and Commissioner Dorosin); Nays, 5 40 (Commissioner Price, Chair Rich, Commissioner Greene, Commissioner Bedford, 41 Commissioner McKee) 42 43 Amendment 006/007 44 Commissioner Marcoplos said he would like to know more about what benefits 45 are received from the SOG, and if it is useful. 46 Commissioner Dorosin asked if staff could identify what the $17,000+ dues are 47 for. 48 Bonnie Hammersley said she believes it is considered a contribution, as opposed 49 to a membership, and from a staff level, it is very valuable to local governments. 50 Commissioner Dorosin said asked if there is a process to determine the amount 51 of contribution that is made to the SOG. He said making a contribution does not 52 translate into reduced fees for conferences, and the SOG's mission is to serve the state 53 of North Carolina, and he thinks the school would offer help to anyone who calls, 54 regardless of having made a contribution or not.