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12 Amy Fowler said there are not many viable locations for citing new schools. Commissioner Dorosin said to knock one down and then build a new one. He said if Ephesus ES needs $30 million in repairs and renovations, it seems a prime candidate to be razed and start all over on the same site. CHCCS Chair Wolf said page 13 includes the option referenced by Patrick Abele, option 1 plus the Lincoln Center project. Rani Dasi said it is not realistic to compare the costs of building a new school with those of deconstructing an old school and relocating the current students. Commissioner Greene referred to the Lincoln Center proposal, and asked if this is the same one that was previously proposed during bond discussions. Patrick Abele said yes. Commissioner Bedford said the Town of Chapel Hill is working on a plan for the American Legion property on Legion Road, near Ephesus ES, which may have housing or a park. She said this property backs up to the school, and could be a wonderful opportunity for collaboration, and having a full size gym, etc. Patrick Abele said Ephesus also has 7 mobile units, and the plan would be to eliminate all 44 mobile units in the district. Commissioner Bedford said when discussing the renovations for Chapel Hill High School, costs for renovation versus tear down were not vastly different, and the property was large enough that the school could manage to shuffle students during the construction. Commissioner Dorosin said everything needs to be costed out, and tear down will cost more, but may be more cost efficient in the long run. He referred to page 13, and asked if the BOCC should be girding itself for a request from CHCCS for a $120.59 million in capital funds in this year's budget. Patrick Abele said no, and that figure was geared towards a 2024 bond. He said CHCCS would like to discuss how to infuse more capital dollars, not at the expense of operations, to do more renovations sooner, rather than waiting until buildings are in total disrepair. Commissioner Dorosin said if that is successful, the $120.5 million could come down. Patrick Abele said yes. Commissioner Price referred to option 1, and asked how long the repairs will last. Patrick Abele said it just depends. He said security and safety changes may be needed, but most roofing and mechanical systems come with some warranties. Commissioner Price asked if costs for future years are known, if the total cost was $51.5 million in the first year. Patrick Abele said some things would come off the list, and others would go on. He said another goal would be to keep these project lists fluid and updated on a regular basis. Commissioner Price said once one problem is fixed, another will arise, and the average cost will probably remain the same for several years to address all issues. Patrick Abele agreed. Commissioner Bedford said many of these campuses are open to the outdoors, and thus insecure, and she asked if any of the options, presented this evening, take those types of renovations into account. Patrick Abele said it is not until option 3 that one will see complete closures and redesigns, as well as the removal of mobile units. Commissioner Greene said she recalled significant road improvements that would be necessary for the Lincoln Center project, and asked if it was determined who would cover such costs: the Town of Chapel Hill or CHCCS. Patrick Abele said he does not know for Lincoln Center, but the Chapel Hill High School project included some significant road improvements, and these costs were covered by both the