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Agenda - 02-11-2020 Item 1 - Update on Schools Joint Action Committee Related to Class Sizes and Pre-K
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Agenda - 02-11-2020 Item 11 - Orange County Planning Board - Appointment Discussion
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Agenda - 02-11-2020 Item 12 - Orange Unified Transportation Board - Appointment Discussion
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14 <br /> Commissioner Marcoplos said prior to committing to building new schools, the County <br /> needs to have all of the remodeling and redistricting options. He asked if staff knows when it <br /> will have this information. <br /> Patrick Able said staff will bring some information to the joint meeting on February 25th <br /> and the district is getting as many classrooms ready as possible now, and next year will have <br /> reassignment for the start of the 2021-22 school year. He said class size reductions will be <br /> heavily considered in this planning process. <br /> Will Atherton said the redistricting has a bit of a chicken and the egg quality to it, and if <br /> pre-K is an unknown, it is difficult to determine where to move other students. He said <br /> redistricting now would look very different than redistricting with the removal of pre-K. <br /> Patrick Able said the February 25th discussion will include the aging facilities and <br /> needed renovations. <br /> Commissioner Price referred to the renovations piece, and said some campuses, such <br /> as Grady Brown, need to be secured. She asked if doing so would build capacity, and if this is <br /> considered in the numbers. <br /> Craig Benedict said through the Capital Improvement Planning (CIP) process, staff will <br /> develop a CIP that may or may not include capacity increases, and once that reaches a feasible <br /> fundable CIP, in the years targeted, then they can include capacity. He said it must be <br /> financially feasible. <br /> Commissioner Price asked if the school boards are expecting that capacity will be added <br /> if renovations occur. <br /> Will Atherton said OCS CIP focus has been for repairing schools for safety measures, <br /> and he said they are exploring whether increased capacity is possible through renovation, <br /> which will not be realistic in some of the older buildings. <br /> Patrick Able said CHCCS long-range facility planning processes did include some <br /> feasibility studies and assessment as to what makes sense with large-scale capital projects and <br /> meeting capacity needs. He said it is unclear if these capacity increases would align with the <br /> reassignment processes. He said this will all be shared at the February 251h meeting. <br /> Commissioner McKee said going forward all the boards need to have an in depth <br /> discussion about pre-K. <br /> Commissioner Price referred to the mandatory pre-K programs, and asked if these <br /> students are included in head counts. <br /> Will Atherton said no, but exceptional children (EC) classrooms are adjusted correctly <br /> for the sizes. <br /> Commissioner Bedford thanked the committee that worked on this, and she said <br /> SAPFO is a good tool for the County and assists in predicting capacity and allows for changes <br /> in capital budgeting. <br /> Commissioner Bedford said the notion of suspending the ability to deny CAPS does not <br /> solve the problem, but what it does do, if pre-K numbers were added in, is prevent law suits and <br /> waste of money defending them. <br /> Commissioner Bedford said some of the trailers at Ephesus Elementary School are <br /> beyond their useful life, and are not used full time for the kids. She said remaining trailers at <br /> the school are used for children full time, and are a security issue for children. She said trailers <br /> are not part of SAPFO, which is good, but in reality they are used but really should not be so <br /> any longer. <br /> Commissioner Bedford said the best choices moving forward may be different for the <br /> two school districts. She said in 2013 CHCCS brought forward the issue of pre-K, and there <br /> may be more land in OCS than CHCCS. She said she has always wanted pre-K numbers <br /> included in SAPFO, and believes pre-K is one of the greatest strategies for closing the <br /> achievement gap. <br />
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