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Approved 11/20/19 <br />5 <br /> <br />Todd Jones: I’m a little confused that the Town of Hillsborough says they are not legally allowed to maintain any facility 213 <br />outside their boundaries. I know they’ve got Kings Highway Park that’s outside the town limits, and they appear to 214 <br />maintain that however minimally. 215 <br /> 216 <br />Nish Trivedi: The South portion is in the ETJ. Not where the bridge and the fencing is. 217 <br /> 218 <br />Heidi Perry: I would like to know what the state law is. 219 <br /> 220 <br />Tom Altieri: I’m happy to submit with the highlighted section of the state law that we received the town. 221 <br /> 222 <br />Heidi Perry: Maybe I’ll just ask somebody like Sig Hutchinson how Wake County gets all their stuff maintained because 223 <br />it’s not all in any particular community. 224 <br /> 225 <br />Todd Jones: Regarding the schools being funding partners for all of this, there’s two main sources of funding for the 226 <br />school system. The state provides funds that are very strictly earmarked to teachers and some facilities and then the 227 <br />County and its generosity provides a lot of funds to the schools and presumably that would be the only area we had 228 <br />some flexibility and discretionary use of funds, so whether it’s the County paying directly or the County paying the 229 <br />schools money, the schools turnaround and say hey we’re partners. It’ s all essentially from the same bucket of money. 230 <br /> 231 <br />Heidi Perry: In 2010, there was a pedestrian bridge that was submitted for funding from NC DOT and my understanding 232 <br />was that it had scored well but that DOT pulled it because there were no sidewalks on either end of it and they weren’t 233 <br />going to build a bridge that didn’t connect to something. I have a couple of the letters from 2010, but I don’t have the 234 <br />whole chronology of that, but I’d love to see it. I’d love to see how it scored and what year and then when it was pulled 235 <br />from consideration. Which was in 2010. Amy did a very nice presentation at DCHC/MPO a couple years ago that laid 236 <br />out some of the things she’s talked about today, and I think it would be good to have that as part of the stuff that you’re 237 <br />looking at. I’m going look and see if I can find other examples around the state. I don’t know what that law is. Maybe 238 <br />you should show to the people at NC DOT and ask them how they interpret it. I just think that other places have 239 <br />managed to build things that are outside of city limits, so either Orange County is very specifically different in that they 240 <br />have a policy that they won’t maintain sidewalks or greenways and, if that’s the case, Orange County needs to work on 241 <br />their policy, or other places have figured out to do it and we need to figure out what they’ve done to make it work. 242 <br /> 243 <br />Heidi Perry: I think the focus probably should be: How do we have a safe route to the school. As Todd said, the cost 244 <br />and how we pay for it should not be a part of the study. There are different mechanisms that can help pay for things, 245 <br />but I think somebody has to actually take responsibility for apparently the maintenance of it. 246 <br /> 247 <br />Art Menius: I think it has to be solved politically. I don’t think it’s going to get solved logically or administratively. 248 <br /> 249 <br />Erik Broo: It would just be nice to have this come back to us with, here’s how we can get Hillsborough to think 250 <br />differently. Here’s how we can make these examples in Onslow County good things that we might use in making an 251 <br />argument. 252 <br /> 253 <br />Heidi Perry: And Todd’s argument about some of these kids, you give them away to get to school safely without a car 254 <br />and it gives their whole family more freedom plus there are studies that show people who arrived to school walking or 255 <br />biking are more attentive in class. It’s healthier for the kids too. 256 <br /> 257 <br />Tom Altieri: I think the study could include what are those critical path policy issues that need to be identified and the 258 <br />maintenance is one of them. Thank you for your comments. 259 <br /> 260 AGENDA ITEM 5B: MPO/RPO AND NCDOT UPDATES – NISH TRIVEDI 261 262 <br />Nish Trivedi: Burlington/Graham Metropolitan (BGMPO) is moving forward with their MTP update. They have created a 263 <br />universal list of projects. Their student committee met yesterday to go over the project selection process and how they 264 <br />were to select projects for the new MTP. They are waiting on the Piedmont Triangle Regional model to be updated and 265
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