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D R A F T <br />Carrie Fletcher asked whether the language was leading to applicants having to retain legal guidance. Mr. Harvey 112 <br />informed the board that state law does not mandate an applicant have an attorney nor does the ordinance but stated it 113 <br />to be advisable for applicants entering a quasi-judicial hearing or a hearing requesting a variance observing a fair trial 114 <br />standard to have the advice, counsel, or representation of an attorney.115 <br />116 <br />Carrie Fletcher remarked that from a layperson’s perspective, she felt the language was pushing civilians to have legal 117 <br />representation.118 <br />119 <br />Paul Guthrie commented that it could go both ways and stated it would be difficult situation if a person wanted to 120 <br />litigate and had the means to do so.121 <br />122 <br />Michael Harvey requested for Mr. Guthrie to elaborate on his comment so he could respond adequately and asked 123 <br />whether Mr. Guthrie’s concern was based on appeals or whether it would more difficult to deny projects. Mr. Guthrie 124 <br />responded that he felt there would be a lot of litigation if the County Commissioners don’t state in similar language 125 <br />reason behind an applicant’s denial. 126 <br />127 <br />Michael Harvey reminded the board that both the Board of Adjustments and the County Commissioners is represented 128 <br />by the attorney’s office. He explained the attorney representatives work with their boards to craft decisions consistent 129 <br />with the evidence in the record. Mr. Harvey informed the board that once a public hearing is closed on any Special 130 <br />Use Permit, variance application, or interpretation, the staff can no longer engage with the board and only the County’s 131 <br />appointed legal counsel can engage with them in crafting the appropriate decision based on the Board’s interpretation 132 <br />of the evidence and testimony in the record.133 <br />134 <br />Paul Guthrie commented that it was quite conceivable for a court on appeal to find issue with the persuasion language.135 <br />He stated he found he language to be vulnerable to judicial attack. 136 <br />137 <br />Michael Harvey sought clarification on the boards’ concerns, outlining them follows: 138 <br />1. The board does not understand the rational for including the phrase “ the applicant shall have the burden of 139 <br />persuasion on those issues”. 140 <br />2. The board did not understand the plain meaning or impact of the term persuasion in this context; 141 <br />3. The board wondered if there needed to be a standard specifically outlining what the applicant had to do to 142 <br />persuade the Board of Adjusting or the BOCC an application should be approved;143 <br />4. The BOCC’s review; the implications of appeals during litigation;144 <br />5. The implications of the phrase on the County’s land use planning program; and 145 <br />6. The boards’ concerns regarding the findings of fact in denying or approving an action. 146 <br />147 <br />Lydia Wegman asked to add in, and why it is necessary. She further explained that even though the planning board 148 <br />comes in earlier, a recommendation is still needed on the Special Use Permits and this becomes difficult for the 149 <br />planning board.150 <br />151 <br />Paul Guthrie stated he would feel a little bit better if there was another sentence added to indicate that if the boards 152 <br />feel they have not been persuaded that they would meticulously document which items there were not persuaded on. 153 <br />154 <br />Michael Harvey clarified that he thought something of that nature was already in the ordinance. He acknowledged that 155 <br />the language was not sitting well with the board and stated he was well aware that the board did not understand the 156 <br />ramifications of the language and acknowledged that the board was not comfortable without the attorney providing in 157 <br />person or writing some reason as to why it had to be added. Various members on the board agreed with Michael’s 158 <br />statements. Ms. Fletcher remarked that she was not comfortable with the phrase. Ms. Wegman requested clarification 159 <br />other than other jurisdictions have included this language. 160 <br />161 <br />Paul Guthrie question how burden is measured in litigation. Mr. Harvey acknowledged that this was another area of 162 <br />concern for the board. 163 <br />164 <br />Adam Beeman commented that if all required items were checked off and an applicant had sound evidence, that the 165 <br />boards could still deny their request if they decided they didn’t like the project. He stated there needs to be a goal to 166 <br />7