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8 <br /> 270 <br /> 271 Nish Trivedi: We can pick a NCDOT standard street cross section and modify it for what we want, like no curb and gutter <br /> 272 and/or 5-foot paved shoulder. <br /> 273 <br /> 274 Eric Broo: So Old Greensboro Road should be sliced into two projects? <br /> 275 <br /> 276 Nish Trivedi: One of the criteria is the cost benefit of the project. If it's a shorter portion, the cost is reduced and it's <br /> 277 benefit may be higher, thereby scoring better. Segments have a better chance of scoring better than the entire corridor. <br /> 278 <br /> 279 Heidi Perry: If we put in the curb and the gutter, it automatically becomes a bike project. Because it's going to have a bike <br /> 280 lane. It's not a shoulder any more it's a lane for bikes <br /> 281 <br /> 282 Nish Trivedi: The curb and gutter does not make it a bike project. When a project's sole purpose is to improve the bike <br /> 283 mode of travel that is what makes it a bike project. Simply asking for a bike lane makes it a bike project. Same with asking <br /> 284 for a sidewalk makes it a pedestrian project. <br /> 285 <br /> 286 Matt Day: You could have a modernization project that has curbs and gutters and it would be a highway project as long <br /> 287 has your stated purpose of the projects is to improve that road. <br /> 288 <br /> 289 Eric Broo: So select stretches that might get a different treatment might be obvious that they were for cyclists and be <br /> 290 discarded because there's no other logical reason for doing it? <br /> 291 <br /> 292 Matt Day: I think if you had different designs for different sections then yes that would become obvious. <br /> 293 <br /> 294 Nish Trivedi:That is why I am recommending congestion and safety be the factors used in breaking up segments and both <br /> 295 of them are standard criteria for SPOT scoring and geared toward highway projects rather than bike/ped. <br /> 296 <br /> 297 Eric Broo: When do you intend to submit these? <br /> 298 <br /> 299 Nish Trivedi: I am looking for your recommendation right now because both or our recommendations goes to the BOCC for <br /> 300 their final decision. We need to get these projects identified by March so we can submit them to MPO/RPO. <br /> 301 <br /> 302 Eric Broo: The bicycle subcommittee could meet and talk about other specific segments? <br /> 303 <br /> 304 Heidi Perry: I think we can't do that without the OUTBoard's recommendation. <br /> 305 <br /> 306 Art Menius: Nish posed the question of whether we wanted to pull curb and gutter and sidewalk out of these projects do <br /> 307 we have a consensus on that or need further discussion? <br /> 308 <br /> 309 Nish Trivedi: If that is your recommendation, I will update these entire lists by removing the curb and gutter and sidewalks, <br /> 310 and recommend County Priorities as Highway Modernization projects with a 5 foot paved shoulder, rather than 4-foot <br /> 311 which matching the NCDOT standard street cross section is 2B. <br /> 312 <br /> 313 Randy Marshall: Will this paved shoulder be built to the same standards as the road? <br /> 314 <br /> 315 Nish Trivedi: Yes, that's why it would be modernized to current standards. <br /> 316 <br /> 317 Nish Trivedi: Do you get the updates for scoping? <br /> 318 <br /> 319 Matt Day: With any kind of sizable project of the MPO/RPO,you should receive notices. <br /> 320 <br /> 321 Art Menius: Where did the discussion about segmenting Old Greensboro project end up? <br /> 322 <br />