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Minutes - Special Meeting Solid Waste Advisory Board March 31 , 2009 Approved May 7, 2009 Sallach states that you would need to be careful breaking out the components . There is a difference in the transfer cost because we are incorporating a new facility . We have the amortization of the $4 . 7 million, the operation of that and then the haul to a disposal location. That component, looking at the analysis, is slightly higher for the 54 [transfer] station versus what you have as $42 or $45 for the private sector disposals . But the thing that does offset is the long haul to get to the more remote transfer stations . It isn ' t exactly that differential but it is offset by the differential cost of hauling to [Hwy] 54 . Yuhasz asks if we didn' t build a transfer station and went with one of the alternative haulers, over 20 years that would cost more than if we built a transfer station and did it ourselves . Sallach concurs . Yuhasz states that at some point, there is the line of build it ourselves and operate it which is less at the end, and there is don' t build it and use the private haulers which is less in the beginning . Those two lines are going to cross each other at some point. Do you have any sense of how far out we go before those two lines cross ? Sallach states that it is about two years under this set of assumptions . See the graph in the report on page 2.3 in the first section of the report " Transfer, Haul and Disposal Evaluation . " Yuhasz states that if there was a third option of a WtE station and we knew that it would be operational in three years it would clearly make sense not to spend the money on the transfer station. If the WtE station was going to take 15 years to build then it might make sense to do the transfer station and operate it ourselves for that 15 years even though we know we weren' t going to run it out for the 20 years . That is the question that I am asking . Where how far out do we have to go before it makes sense to build the transfer station regardless of when alternatives would be available ? Wilson states that the answer is we don' t know because we have to have a date certain to say when the WtE facility will come on line . From your question it assumes that you would think that the WtE facility would be in Orange County . Yuhasz states yes, a WtE facility in Orange County is the only way to eliminate the need for a waste transfer station. Wilson states that there is obviously nothing in the short term so you are clearly looking at 10 - 15 years minimum . The question is if it is 10 years is it worth hauling 12