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Minutes - Regular Meeting Solid Waste Advisory Board • March 5, 2009 Approved April 2, 2009 Haviland states that I don ' t know the date but I could get that to you . About six months ago we put our proposal in, about six months prior to that they did the RFQ . They must have had the concept to go with WtE before then . I can give you the timeline for how long it is going to take to get through the formal permitting and then the notice to proceed and build the project, remember it is two years to build it from the time the first shovel is in the ground . Plus perhaps two years of permitting . Unknown : One of the things that I hear we haven' t been able to do it yet and therefore we can' t have it. That kind of mindset to me is not a very creative mindset. It doesn ' t allow innovation or change . I see that we are all in huge creative change now where there are some imperatives that are greater in some way than are miniscule daily things and even sometimes costs . Someone on the SWAB, I don ' t know who, said that cost isn ' t the highest thing we need to look at, that we need to look at the bigger picture . Maybe we have hundreds of years left of landfills but we don' t have hundreds of years left to create methane fumes in the air, to violate the environment in that kind of way . Maybe it is wishful thinking but what I also hear is that these technologies are not new, they have been around for a long time . They just got squashed through some administration . They are here . They ' ve been in Europe . They are working. To me we need to think differently . It is imperative for a bigger picture than just the way we have been doing it and the way it will work . Dayton asks if dealing with privatized picture where firms are out to make a lot of money . Looking at the map of the U . S . , in every city if you guys were successful in putting in one of the things that generates 500 tons or more waste a year I am curious as to how many tons of toxic air pollutants will be in our air . Our health is the most important thing . Campbell states that this question is for Waste Management. I heard Waste Management say that when they get ready to build a facility they want it [ as] close to a densely populated area as possible . In doing so how much input do residents have ? From what you have heard tonight from all the residents from Orange County and Alamance County what would your decision be regarding a WtE facility or a transfer station, given the life span of the different facilities that Mr . Wilson spoke about? If the life of one of these things is twenty years and another fifty years, then what do we do after the twenty years . You' d be looking for another site to build . What would be the best way to go - WtE or transfer ? Peverall states that obviously a waste transfer station is inevitable in the short-term . Zeller states that Orange County as all other counties has to enact franchise agreements when they make contracts with waste companies . That will be the first opportunity . . . because that decision is made by your county I suppose with the recommendation of this Board . 22