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12 <br /> 52 Michael Harvey: This particular parcel of property? <br /> 53 <br /> 54 Paul Guthrie: That whole parcel does. <br /> 55 <br /> 56 Michael Harvey: The plan has not been solidified or formally submitted. Water quantity standards will still have to be <br /> 57 met through the pre-post rule and more water will not be allowed to run off the property after it is developed than <br /> 58 currently runs off it right now. <br /> 59 <br /> 60 Hunter Spitzer: How is that measured? <br /> 61 <br /> 62 Michael Harvey:An engineer has to do a hydrologic assessment and have to submit documentation. It is up to the <br /> 63 Orange County Erosion and Storm Water staff to verify compliance through periodic inspections. <br /> 64 <br /> 65 Hunter Spitzer: If we don't amend,will there be consequences should someone complete the regulations without us <br /> 66 having to enforce them? <br /> 67 <br /> 68 Michael Harvey: Yes,we could be sued. <br /> 69 <br /> 70 Hunter Spitzer: Can they be left as recommendations? <br /> 71 <br /> 72 Michael Harvey: No. We do not have the legal authority to suggest that. The state has eliminated our ability to talk <br /> 73 about water quality regulations in Jordan. The County Attorney's office wants them removed and we agree. <br /> 74 <br /> 75 Lydia Wegman: Rather than removing it our altogether, is there a way to put a statement saying these rules are not <br /> 76 currently enforceable because the state is currently reviewing water quality standards? <br /> 77 <br /> 78 Michael Harvey: They need to be removed because we do not know what the final rules will look like. To avoid <br /> 79 potential litigation, it is incumbent upon us to ensure that our ordinance properly reflects the authority granted to us <br /> 80 by the state to enforce whatever standard we are authorized to do. <br /> 81 <br /> 82 Paul Guthrie: Do you want federal standards to be involved with our controlling streams? <br /> 83 <br /> 84 Michael Harvey: This ordinance has a compliance point with applicable state and federal standards. Anytime there <br /> 85 is a permit requirement we have to involve the Army Corp of Engineers when there is a stream crossing. <br /> 86 <br /> 87 Paul Guthrie: Do you have regular conversations with OWASA? <br /> 88 <br /> 89 Michael Harvey: OWASA has reviewed this and have discussed with both Ruth Rouse, my counterpart at OWASA, <br /> 90 and Allison Rinehart,a former Orange County employee in Erosion Control. <br /> 91 <br /> 92 Michael Harvey: Nomenclature changes will also be made in the text amendment. The state agency that addresses <br /> 93 this has changed. We are also eliminating references to best management practice. Its now the vernacular at the <br /> 94 state level is Storm Water Control Measure or(SCM). Appropriate modifications will be made to Section 614 as <br /> 95 necessary to ensure compliance. <br /> 96 <br /> 97 AGENDA ITEM 3: ADJOURNMENT <br /> 98 The ORC concluded its meeting at 8:03 P.M. <br /> 99 <br /> 100 Lydia N. Wegman, Chair <br />