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1 Government that says in other cases the board may need to consider additional evidence to make a decision. He said <br /> 2 it's important to remember that a board review of the board's decision is different from Michael Harvey's review of his <br /> 3 decision. It's a review of his determination so it's just a fact of whether something is or is not. Michael Harvey <br /> 4 determined that it is certified as something. Whether he had any rationale or reasoning is meaningless. He could have <br /> 5 written only that this was his final and binding determination that X. The board, however, is held to a different standard. <br /> 6 The board has to have findings of fact and conclusions for it. What's before this board is everything that is competent, <br /> 7 material, substantial evidence. <br /> 8 <br /> 9 James Bryan said regarding res judicata and collateral estoppel, there are two things to consider. One is if the board is <br /> 10 truly concerned and not persuaded by his advice, the board can continue the hearing and tell the attorneys to brief this <br /> 11 for the board. They mentioned a lot of cases and didn't provide the cases. The board can continue this if it wants to do <br /> 12 so but James Bryan said this is a new matter; 2(a) did not exist. There are issues that have been decided. There is a <br /> 13 previous order with a finding of fact that this is a bona fide farm. So, the board cannot come back and say it's not. But <br /> 14 that is irrelevant to this discussion. All that is relevant to the discussion is the rule. Who owns the property? Do they <br /> 15 hold a tax exemption certificate from the Department of Revenue? And is the structure used for agritourism? That's all <br /> 16 that matters. <br /> 17 <br /> 18 James Bryan said regarding this new law, one other case has gone up to the Court of Appeals, Jeffries v. Harnett <br /> 19 County. They had sort of the mirror image of this. That one was a gun range and the board had to look at it. The statute <br /> 20 mentions weddings but doesn't mention hunting. The court decided that most hunting is not agritourism but went on to <br /> 21 say that the property owner could go on to apply for a Conditional Use Permit. James Bryan said it is not exactly on <br /> 22 point, the property owner went for the agritourism exemption first instead of the Conditional Use Permit. But the court is <br /> 23 saying, `You didn't get this one. You are free to go for another permit.' <br /> 24 <br /> 25 Randy Herman asked James Bryan, regarding the issue of looking behind the certificate, if the board thinks a certificate <br /> 26 was supposed to be issued for Wild Flora Farm, LLC, and the board thinks that Wild Flora Farm, LLC, didn't have <br /> 27 income sufficient to gain the certificate and therefore the issuance of the certificate was wrong, can we look behind it or <br /> 28 do we have to say, `No, the certificate was issued and that's the end of it."? <br /> 29 <br /> 30 James Bryan answered the board is held to the exact words of the statute and to their plain meaning. What the statute <br /> 31 says is the holder of the certificate— not someone who has the attributes of someone who would qualify. He said it's not <br /> 32 shown in the photocopy very well but the letter from the Department of Revenue, there's an actual card for it. He said <br /> 33 he thinks it would be an absurd reading to say it is somebody who literally holds the card so you could pass it around <br /> 34 the table. But he thinks it says that. If you want to read something into it, there has to be some reason. There has to be <br /> 35 some statutory construction that you say, `Oh, this is probably what they meant.' And he does not think the board has <br /> 36 heard anything about that. He doesn't think it's ambiguous. He thinks the plain meaning is intended. If it's ambiguous, <br /> 37 you have to resolve it with statutory construction and if there is any ambiguity left, you have to resolve it in favor of the <br /> 38 property owner for the free use of land. The courts have been very clear for a long time. It is very settled that anything <br /> 39 done through the zoning, Chapter 153 A, Article 18 is a derogation of property rights and has to be narrowly construed <br /> 40 in favor of the property owner. So, if there's a question, that's where the tie to the runner goes. One side has to win and <br /> 41 it's the free use of property. <br /> 42 <br /> 43 Barry Katz asked for clarification that the board does not get to consider res judicata and collateral estoppel. <br /> 44 <br /> 45 James Bryan answered res judicata would be if this was before the board again. So, if someone applies for a kennel <br /> 46 and the board denies a kennel and then the same person comes for a kennel that would be res judicata. He does not <br /> 47 see how it applies in this matter—2(a) did not exist. <br /> 48 <br /> 49 Barry Katz said James Bryan mentioned that if it's like a tie, the privilege goes to the property owner. But the board's <br /> 50 issue here is whether there is any real continuity. Isn't that so? <br /> 17 <br />