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1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />26 <br />27 <br />28 <br />29 <br />30 <br />31 <br />32 <br />33 <br />34 <br />35 <br />36 <br />37 <br />38 <br />39 <br />40 <br />41 <br />42 <br />43 <br />44 <br />45 <br />46 <br />47 <br />48 <br />49 <br />50 <br />22 <br />Jamie Sykes said yes, and he has seen it as high as 192 about 12 -15 years ago. <br />A Deputy said he remembers the number being as high as 210, but that was prior to <br />measures being put in place to bring numbers down. <br />Jamie Sykes said he also remembers the total being 18. <br />Commissioner Rich asked if clarification could be given about the classifications: how <br />many cells would be for men and women, etc. <br />Jamie Sykes said there are many classifications, which will be discussed more during <br />the design phase. He said there may be juvenile detainees, who must be kept separate; Prison <br />Rape Elimination Act (PREA), with which the County cannot currently comply; violent offenders; <br />pretrial detainees; higher risk inmates, etc. He said how this plays out in the design phase will <br />fall under certain state and federal guidelines. <br />Commissioner Rich asked if the classifications could interfere with how many inmates <br />can be housed, due to having too many inmates of one particular classification. <br />Jamie Sykes said if it is not fully considered during the design phase, or the flexibility of <br />the building itself prevents staff from being able to do accommodate classifications, then yes, it <br />could be a problem. He said there are many options from a design standpoint that should be <br />able to prevent this being a problem. <br />Commissioner Burroughs clarified that 136 inmates would save 8 beds and $200,000. <br />Chair Dorosin said he would be interested in an amount smaller than the 136- inmate <br />capacity, and these studies do not take into account other factors such as diversionary <br />programming, raising the minimum age, thus removing 16 and 17 year old from the adult <br />system, as well as other changes. He said he would like to go as low as 120 beds, and this is <br />an opportunity to reflect the policy efforts, that have been made, in the construction of this <br />facility. <br />Commissioner Rich said it will be more costly to build on later, and she is comfortable <br />with 136 and 144 beds. <br />Chair Dorosin said there are policy considerations, and this Board and this community <br />are interested in looking at other alternatives to incarceration. He said the fiscal side is one <br />thing, but the extra beds are a disincentive to all the work being done by stakeholders in the <br />field of restorative justice, and are an incentive to take on more federal prisoners. He said this <br />prison could reflect this community's commitment to alternative practices for the next 100 years. <br />Commissioner Marcoplos said it would be a big mistake to put money in a facility and <br />run out of space before the building is very old. He said in terms of reflecting the Board and <br />local values, how the County deals with people that run afoul of the law should be rooted in the <br />County's belief system and not the availability of cells. He said keeping people out of jail should <br />not be motivated by a lack of space, but rather because the County believes in a system that <br />rehabilitates and steers people back into productive life. <br />Chair Dorosin said keeping the jail is not a backhanded way to keep people out of jail, <br />but rather is a reflection of the local values. <br />Commissioner Marcoplos said extending the life of the building is the most financially <br />responsible thing to do, and continue to use the community's authentic philosophy to keep <br />people out of it. But at least the building would last. He said he is leaning toward the 144 <br />capacities, erring on the side of more capacity now while it is cost effective to do so. He said he <br />does not see this number being at all incompatible with local values. <br />Commissioner Price said she is more in line with Chair Dorosin's thinking, and would <br />prefer to get treatment for people rather than lock them up. She said she prefers a capacity of <br />136 or 128. <br />Commissioner Jacobs said he is thinking about Southern Human Services Center, <br />which opened 20 years ago, and the Board at that time chose not to include a dental clinic in <br />order to save money. He said the current Board is now planning to add a dental clinic, which <br />
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